Re: [PHP4BETA] changing all "php3" to "php4" ?
| From: | Rasmus Lerdorf | Date: | Thu, 27 May 1999 19:03:53 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [PHP4BETA] changing all "php3" to "php4" ? | ||
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> The whole point of the beta period is that the transition phase will be
> nullified. As someone that has a lot of experience with testing PHP3 web
> sites with PHP4, I truly don't agree with you. Sure, we've recognized one
> thing that doesn't work with PHP4 and does work with PHP3, but it's
> extremely rare and makes no sense (which is why we don't support it in
> Zend). The number of people that will be bitten by it is negligible, and
> they'll be covered by the changes file that we'll release.
> Simply put, I don't want to release PHP4 if there's any transition phase
> required. We'll refine it until it's not necessary. If people would still
> want it, they could do it using CGI.
> Just to make it clear, it doesn't even remotely resemble the situation with
> php/fi2 and php3, as I'm sure you realize. I don't want to make people get
> the impression that it is in fact similar and that they need to slowly
> migrate, instead of just upgrade.
And I understand all that, but in order for us to get that far, we need
people testing PHP4. In order for me to do any real testing of PHP4, I
need to put it on real web servers, and I am not prepared to yank PHP3
from those servers at this point. And I am sure you would agree with
that. In the end, it is fine with me if Joe User can't use php3 and php4
at the same time, but for me personally, I would be in a much better
position to test php4 if it would work alongside php3.
> What do you mean symbol clashes? I can't seem to understand how a clash
> between getParameters() from PHP3 and getParameters() from PHP4 can be
> solved easily
change one
> Anyway, hardly anybody uses them as DSOs. Ok, not hardly anybody, but most
> people don't. They'll probably have a harder time getting DSOs to work,
> than getting PHP4 to work with all of their scripts, which typically, would
> require no work.
I predict 90% of Apache PHP users will use the APXS build mechanism within
3 months from now for both php3 and php4. Certainly all RedHat users will
end up using the DSO build. And probably just about every Linux user.
-Rasmus
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