RTFM

I -did- read the f**king manual. Every damn one I could find. php.net phpbuilder.com Search on Altavista/excite. I've made posts on four(4) points. 1) Implicit "this" pointers and a requested change. It's not going to happen, and that's fine. Nowhere could I find that you are required to use $this-> for EVERY member variable except one fleeting example. Which brings me to #2... 2) Extra $ on this-> pointers. You use $ on every damn variable you set, so why the hell not on a $this-> call? This was confusing, I figured it out after posting my message and brought it up. Yes, this is a beta list. Beta means that things are not flushed out, including the docs. Perhaps the open-source doc people are reading this list and may add a note. IMHO, I thought this place was about collective learning. If someone has a problem, or a stumbling point, and they post it then it can either be documented or otherwise resolved. What's the point of having a feature rich language if it has a HUGE learning curve full of potholes? People will choose another language or spend a lot of wasted time on otherwise "simple" stuff. This idea was also my post about corrupted objects, since $this->$my_var is not $this->my_var. 3) Isset(). This one was superfluous, you're correct. I had taken the idea of it in the context of a C++ pointer instead of it's own "object" and asked what the result of (isset(object_reference)) was. 4) I did have one "RTFM" post about confirming that all session-stored objects were server-side. I was hoping that perhaps PHP had some type of client-side store objects. That would be just too damn cool, and would avoid my having to write JavaScript. Is not the case, but I pointed out that this was a confirmation in the beginning of the message. Yes, I'm new to PHP. I've never used it before last week. I had surmised that a PHP list such as this was for asking questions since I am using the PHP4 beta. My transition from compiled languages to PHP has not been easy; I'm not too keen on stateless connections after having worked with "hard" connections for so long. Thus far, compiled languages (C, C++, Ada, Pascal) and VB have been easier to learn than PHP4. Even COM/DCOM gave me less headaches. Just my observation after one hell of a long week. Regardless, my apologies for the "noise" and I'll try to keep my questions to myself and just lurk. -Szii Comments welcome, flames sent to /dev/null. At 01:56 AM 4/23/00 -0700, you wrote: > >Sorry, but RTFM!! >Do you homework before coming to the list. >I don't mean to knock you, but seriously, the things you've >been clogging the list with are easily resolved by a quick >visit to php.net or a search at google. >Thanks. > >> All better now.... anyone else think this might be a good thing to be in the >> doc? Maybe we can get a design alias on the resolution of $ such that when >> resolving $ it strips out "extra" $'s? > >