Re: [PHP4BETA] PHP and JSP comparison (Addendum)

Dear Lewis and Ruby, I think, JSP is a interact of Java to web-based application, as I know java is web-enabled application. I think JSP will be one of the enemy of PHP, in embbed HTML war. The other enemy is ASP, Cold Fusion (my friend loved this software, he used Allaire HomeSite to create the web pages using them). I want to tell you a story from my experience. In my company, AA, I have several developer who used Oracle Developer 2000, the Finance, Distribution, Manufacturing are created by Developer 2000. You will see the Oracle conference or launch for 11i in April 2000, they will launch CRM11i, ERP11i. They are using the fmb, a compiled version of Developer 2000. To run them, We can used Developer runtime, but after version 11, I used ORacle JInitiator a Java 2 Plug-in like. we can run a .jar file in browser. and the application show as like a windows dialog in your browser. I have several problem, when connect my server in Malaysia, and access in Indonesia (we using 256kb Frame Relay connected to Singapore, as a our worldwide backbone). I can connect the software from here (jakarta), but sometimes, disconnected.. ha.. ha.. I don't know what is the problem. LAst week I access my SAP R/3 v4 from here to Singapore. waw ... it is connected... I access several web from siebel.com a CRM. a sample of them you can access in www.sales.com, it is working welll and excellent. I think that is a benefit of JSP, you can used your application as a web based system, and a web-enalbed system. But, I haven't find the web explain the JSP access COM in Windows environment. AND PHP have java ext. does, we have to thanks to Ruby for his contribute. I think it is a competitive advantage of Java, because they support 3 tier model programming. I haven't study of the OOP from PHP, I wish PHP4 can be integrated in UML, for generate an enterprise apps version of PHP. Ruby, Would you post your compiled version of java ext in the web? As a man behind java module in PHP, I think you should upload the compiled the java ext for PHP to the PHP site. -- rubys@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > AL Lewis wrote: > > Has anyone done/seen any PHP-JSP comparisons, even > ASP for that matter? > I > > am really starting to like PHP and would like for > my company to start > using > > it as our active page alternative, however, I need > help. Also, I know > that > > milestones are close at hand for PHP 4 release > dates, but are there any > > gu-estimates and will the direct Java support be > ready? I ask about PHP > 4 > > because for us to use it we need session and Java > support. Lastly I know > > that JSP has some performance issues, but has > anyone done any > benchmarking > > with PHP 4? > > At the moment, I'm the only one working on Java > support. Any contributions > welcome. It works well on Windows, and worked at > one time on Unix, but at > the moment I'm trying to accomodate changes to the > base - both build > process and internal structure changes. Example of > the types of things I > have to deal with - Java allows you to call out to > 'C', but I don't think > that any of the JDK designers expected you to do > things like change the > working directory on them. > > With respect to benchmarks: don't trust them. > Benchmarks can be > constructed to "prove" that PHP is faster than ASP - > and the reverse. > Database intensive web sites will spend most of the > time in the database > irrespective of the page language. Build a > representative sample of what > you are trying to accomplish, and benchmark it > yourself. > > "G" wrote: > > For my part, it appears that the IDE support for > Java is excellent, but I > > don't know if any IDEs support JSP well. IDE > support for PHP is > essentially > > just what's been built into the code lately - > debugging and text coloring > is > > about it that I can think of. I used to think > that the Java class > libraries > > were so big that the learning curve was high, but > now PHP has gotten > pretty > > big as well. > > It is a fairly recent phenomenon, but IDEs for JSPs > and PHP exist. > > PHP is big, but modular. If you don't care about a > topic, ignore it (in > fact, don't configure it in). > > - Sam Ruby > > > > -- > PHP 4.0 Beta Mailing List > <http://www.php.net/version4/> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > php4beta-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: > php4beta-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > php4beta-admin@lists.php.net > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com