Re: com web/php: Removed bold style on em; this is mostly important for the wiki, but always making 'italic' also bold is overwhelming.:
styles/site.css

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Hannes Magnusson < hannes.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Levi Morrison <levim@php.net> wrote: > > Commit: c036828cbd87a5977810c9cd4e099e91e6e14cd8 > > Author: Levi Morrison <levim@php.net> Wed, 23 Oct 2013 > 09:16:41 -0600 > > Parents: 586bfaf0b8c04a77f4f72ee49b9f85dbb8217554 > > Branches: master > > > > Link: > > http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=commitdiff;h=c036828cbd87a5977810c9cd4e099e91e6e14cd8 > > > > Log: > > Removed bold style on em; this is mostly important for the wiki, but > always making 'italic' also bold is overwhelming. > > > > Changed paths: > > M styles/site.css > > > > > > Diff: > > diff --git a/styles/site.css b/styles/site.css > > index e5351ea..b4a7373 100644 > > --- a/styles/site.css > > +++ b/styles/site.css > > @@ -197,7 +197,6 @@ ul li { > > } > > > > em { > > - font-weight: bold; > > font-style: italic; > > } > > > > > Since docbook is extremely semantical, it misses to differentiate > italic rendering and bold. > There is however an option (role="bold") that can be used, defeating > the purpose of the semantics, and not used at all (until mysqlnd* > started using it outof the blue for unknown reason, probably edited in > a docbook editor?) - which is why it was never implemented. > > The rendering expectations is italic and/or bold[1]. We have always > done the "and" as it has been used in ways a "heading" would be > expected. The example you posted is excellent example of that, where a > more semantically meaning markup may have been more useful :/ > > I think we still need it in tables, at the very least, due to our abuse of > it. > > -Hannes > > [1] Formatted inline. Emphasized text is traditionally presented in > italics or boldface. A role attribute of bold or strong is often used > to generate boldface, if italics is the default presentation. > Traditionally, bold text is used very rarely in body content because of how much it stands out. Bold text is used to highlight headings and things like pull-quotes; italic text is used to emphasize content in the body. In HTML this would translate as headings being bold and emphasis in body content (<em>) would be italic. This is why the default style for em in browsers is italic but not bold, and headers are bold but not italic. I think the best option for now is to revert my change until I can deal with the effects in the documentation since we've relied on the bold behavior so much. Anyone know where the best place to put a wiki-specific style is?