RE: [PHP-WIN] DOM

It's not PHP vs. DOM. It's XML (DOM) vs. (bad) HTML. PHP just provides you with an interface to an XML parser. www.php4win.de At 01:14 14.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- >Yikes. I'm just reading more about DOM and PHP at the moment on the >PHPBuilder website. > >Does anyone have a version of PHP complied with DOM support included for >Windows (I'm developing on a Windows system before moving it over to Linux - >RedHat)? > >So loading any old web page and trying to construct a DOM document from it >via PHP isn't going to work? How does IE v5 manage to parse the same web >page correctly (or what seems to be correctly)? I've already read in the DOM >table node elements #text and their values via Javascript in IE. > >Still learning lots ;) > >Thanks > >James > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] >Sent: 14 January 2001 00:07 >To: James Duncan; mstearne@entermix.com >Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net >Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] DOM > >I should warn you that XML functions require the document to be >very 'correct'. Most (I guess 98%... I wish browsers weren't so >forgiving, all might've been much easier and better) of HTML >pages on the internet basically aren't HTML (which is a son of >SGML, and an older, heavily cripled brother of XML), and even >strict HTML isn't XML compliant up to XHTML 1.0, which is the >latest version of HTML, fully XML compliant. >If you'll try to load such document into an XML parser, it'll >die with an error message, because XML requires the document >to be well-formed. > >At 00:54 14.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following: >-------------------------------------------------------------- >>Ah rite... thanks for the info. As I said I'm very new to all of this and >>reading lots, whilst trying to make sense of it all ;) So it is possible to >>use PHP to access DOM elements (via the XML DOM library) created from an >>HTML source file (a code example would be very handy)? Does anyone know if >>an XML parser will be built into PHP in the future? I then assume I could >>access DOM elements from an HTML file in the same easy way as I can via >>Javascript in IE? >> >>Thanks >> >>James >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] >>Sent: 13 January 2001 23:22 >>To: James Duncan; mstearne@entermix.com >>Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net >>Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] DOM >> >>You don't understand the basic concept. >> >>DOM (Document Object Model) is a tree representing the structure >>of a document, where the elements (logically separated parts of) >>content is enclosed within tags to allow for computerized >>processing. IE exposes it's own version of DOM through its >>implementations of JS. If you want to access and manipulate a HTML >>document in PHP using this tree-like abstraction (DOM), you will >>have to use XML DOM library. No XML parser is an integral part of >>the language. >> >> >>At 18:20 13.1. 2001, James Duncan wrote the following: >>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>I don't think this will work in my case because I don't control the layout >>>of the HTML page and hence can't add the hidden fields. I'm downloading >the >>>HTML pages from a website. It would require as much work to insert the >>>hidden fields as trying to strip the HTML tags in an attempt to read the >>>data directly from the HTML page itself. There must be a way to access the >>>DOM directly from PHP? I notice in the manual there is a section regarding >>>XML DOM but not the DOM itself. >>> >>>Are the DOM values only available on the client? If that's the case then >>PHP >>>can't be used to read them because it's limited to the server side? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>James >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Michael Stearne [mailto:mstearne@entermix.com] >>>Sent: 13 January 2001 17:06 >>>To: James Duncan >>>Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net >>>Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] DOM >>> >>>Could you do something like: >>> >>>myForm.myField.value=tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[4].fir >s >>t >>>Child.firstChild.node Value; >>> >>>Set up a form of hidden fields. Extract the values from the DOM and then >>>have the user hit a Submit button to get to the next page. At that point >>>the values that were collected and put into the hidden form fields will be >>>submitted and you next page (the PHP page) could INSERT the values into >the >>>database, >>> >>>Michael >>> >>> >>>On Friday, January 12, 2001, at 07:30 PM, James Duncan wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> I'm still new to HTML, Javascript and PHP but learning (fast hopefully). >>>> I've just started accessing DOM elements. I have worked out how to >update >>>> the contents of table cells directly using this method, etc. In >>Javascript >>>I >>>> would use code like: >>>> >>>> alert("Value is: " + >>>> >>>tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[4].firstChild.firstChild.no >d >>e >>>> Name); >>>> alert("Value is: " + >>>> >>>tablejames.firstChild.childNodes[1].childNodes[5].firstChild.firstChild.no >d >>e >>>> Value); >>>> >>>> This Javascript shows the name and value of the child element. >>>> >>>> Now I want to use PHP to extract data (values) from HTML pages like I do >>>> with the above Javascript. Is this possible? Obviously with the >>Javascript >>>> the HTML page has already been rendered in the browser (i.e. all tree >>>> elements have been created). This makes extracting data a simple case of >>>> finding the "#text" elements and reading in the values. Can I do the >same >>>> thing with PHP and an HTML file I've downloaded from the Internet? >>>Obviously >>>> this file is sitting on my server and hasn't been rendered in a >>browser... >>>> >>>> The whole point of this exercise is so that I can extract values from an >>>> HTML table and populate them into a database. Maybe it's easier to >>process >>>> the HTML file line by line and strip the unwanted HTML tags? However, >>with >>>> this approach I've got to hardcode each webpage... >>>> >>>> If this is a silly question then sorry but you only learn if you ask ;) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net >>>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>>For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net >>>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >>------end of quote------ >> >> >> >>____________________________________________________________ >>Cynic: >> >>A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught >>that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is >>the essential part of virtue. >> >>cynic@mail.cz >------end of quote------ > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Cynic: > >A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught >that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is >the essential part of virtue. > >cynic@mail.cz ------end of quote------ ____________________________________________________________ Cynic: A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is the essential part of virtue. cynic@mail.cz