RE: [PHP-WIN] Random Code

From: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:31:55 +0000
Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Random Code
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For all of you asking me... It was most certainly a joke... that's what the :) smiley faces were for... --------------------- John Asendorf - jasendorf@lcounty.com Web Applications Developer http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY! Licking County, Ohio, USA 740-349-3631 The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal Reserve notes with $1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to estimates of the General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000. > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Forrister [mailto:L4@stetson.net] > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:03 PM > Cc: php-windows@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code > > > I hope you aren't serious... You ain't gonna get 36^8 > possible code values in no > > website database, no how... even as a bit map string, over > 300GB is required > just for the data. > ~~LF > > "Asendorf, John" wrote: > > > "These values ARE being stored > > in a database; however, once this database gets to a > million or so rows, it > > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it?" > > > > Well, you **could** make a database of ALL possibilities > and delete each > > possibility as it is used :) Then the program would run > faster and faster > > and you could tell people you've been tweaking the code > while it's actually > > running faster all on its own :) > > > > --------------------- > > John Asendorf - jasendorf@lcounty.com > > Web Applications Developer > > http://www.lcounty.com - NEW FEATURES ADDED DAILY! > > Licking County, Ohio, USA > > 740-349-3631 > > > > The benefit to the government of replacing all $1 Federal > Reserve notes with > > $1 coins would be $522.2 million per year, according to > estimates of the > > General Accouting Office released on April 7, 2000. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: phobo [mailto:antiphobo@paradise.net.nz] > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:48 PM > > > To: php-windows@lists.php.net > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code > > > > > > > > > Oops, 36^8 :) > > > > > > This value would only have to generated perhaps a few times > > > an hour, but > > > should't take more than a second to compute. These values ARE > > > being stored > > > in a database; however, once this database gets to a million > > > or so rows, it > > > would take a very long time to check it doesn't overlap, wont it? > > > > > > I also thought about getting the current date/time stamp and > > > representing it > > > as this value. This code is an online-order reference number, > > > so it could be > > > something like seconds since midnight: > > > > > > 36^4 = 1,679,616 > > > Seconds in a day (60.60.24) = 86400 > > > > > > A really effective way would be to get a subsecond count for > > > the day; so > > > that 0000 is midnight, and ZZZZ is the end of the that day. > > > This means there > > > are about 19 increments a second, which rules out any > possibility of > > > duplicates, because: > > > > > > 1. two other characters could be the id of the user (a > > > numeric value). 36.36 > > > is 33696, which is much higher than the intended number of > > > users on the > > > system (we invisage no more than a few hundred - by the time > > > the userbase > > > gets to 33000, I'll be a millionairre and this can be someone > > > else's job > > > hehe) > > > > > > 2. the two remaining characters could be a day/year thing. > > > perhaps the days > > > since the start of the year 2000. 33696/365 is 92; this > > > system will not be > > > used for 92 years! > > > > > > Does that sound like quite a good algorythm, or do you have a > > > much easier, > > > simpler way? > > > > > > Siggy > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Larry Forrister" <L4@stetson.net> > > > To: <php-windows@lists.php.net> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Random Code > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean W3E4-22ER would be valid? If so there > would be 36^8 > > > > (2,821,109,907,456) possible values. > > > > > > > > A truly random generator algorithm cannot guarantee > uniqueness. I'm > > > > guessing what you want is to generate each possible > value once in a > > > > pseudo-random order. Would just apparent randomness suffice? > > > > > > > > With what frequency do the values need to be generated? > > > Once every few > > > > seconds/minutes or multiple times per second? > > > > ~~LF > > > > > > > > > > > > Sigurd Magnusson wrote: > > > > > > > > > Whats the best way to make a completely random, > unique code in the > > > > > format "ABCD-1234" where each of the 8 characters can be > > > alphanumerc; > > > > > 0-9,A-Z... I thought about generating a 36^4 number, > > > converting to to > > > > > base '36', and repeating the process. What's a good way > > > to ensure the > > > > > code is not repeated, though? > > > > > > > > > > Siggy > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net > > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net > > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > > > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net > > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > -- > PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-windows-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-windows-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > php-list-admin@lists.php.net >

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