Re: extracting email addresses

Thanks Paul, you got actually why I didn't answer again to Mr. Svensson. It's not worth - he will not understand us "...without any programming skills..." This newsgroup is made for two sort of people: who needs help and who can help. But, there is some people they belong to third group - they want to be smart. >"...What I wrote is based on a philosophical discussion I had with ..." Criticism with help - it's ok, it's helpful. Just criticism? No, thank you. > Well, quite nice design!, but... <yaaawn> what > do you want for that? A medal or what? ;-) "yaaaaaawning" for somebody's work - it shows in the best way what kind of person is he. Afan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Meagher" <paul@datavore.com> To: "Svensson, B.A.T. " <B.A.T.Svensson@lumc.nl>; "afan" <afan@sprout.net>; <php-windows@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] extracting email addresses > > Most normal intelligent persons without any programming skills are able > > to put together a workable program if they only have a manual, because > > humans are creative beings. But then manage to make a program that works > > for a task doesn't mean that these guy can do programming! These fellows > > will usually construct programs that a experience programmer would, to > > put it nicely, call "unusual constructions". Probably these program will > > suffer from bad degrees of coupling and cohesion (aka: spaghetti programs > > in popular terms). > > This seems a bit harsh. Afan is trying to learn PHP and is asking some > questions that seem uninformed. In my opinion, he is providing us with > some valuable insights into the mental roadblocks that some newcomers find > in trying to learn PHP. I hope he is not turned off by your comments. > Hang in there Afan. > > > D.S. Your description above about the file with e-mail address is still > > not sufficient enough for a programmer to understand how (s)he should > > employ an algorithm to extract e-mail addresses from it. You suffer > > from the "general-customer-ignorance-problem", where the customer > > believes that programmers are mind reader and can extract all the > > details from a transcendental spiritual plane... Well, let me tell > > you this: programming haven't reached that state - yet. :) D.S. > > Actually, most customers don't have enought savvy to provide requirements. > There is an element of mind reading involved. A better term is > sense-making. I suspect that "good" developers can "read minds" based on > pattern completion arising from experience in similiar situations. > Personally, I believe in alot of mind reading and prototype development to > confirm that my mind reading is on track. > > Regards, > Paul Meagher > > > >