Req #53081 [Bgs]: why you should bring back abstract static methods

From: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:43:14 +0000
Subject: Req #53081 [Bgs]: why you should bring back abstract static methods
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 ID:                 53081
 Updated by:         rasmus@php.net
 Reported by:        giorgio dot liscio at email dot it
 Summary:            why you should bring back abstract static methods
 Status:             Bogus
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            Class/Object related
 PHP Version:        5.3.3
 Block user comment: N

 New Comment:

Right, that is exactly how it should work.


Previous Comments:
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[2010-10-16 08:36:35] giorgio dot liscio at email dot it

i know, but:

abstract class cA
{
      //static function A(){self::B();} error, undefined method
      static function A(){static::B();} // good
      abstract static function B();
}

class cB extends cA
{
    static function B(){echo "ok";}
}

cB::A();

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[2010-10-16 08:27:01] rasmus@php.net

No, you are calling a method in an abstract class.  The fundamental
characteristic 
of an abstract class is that you cannot call methods in them.

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[2010-10-16 08:15:46] giorgio dot liscio at email dot it

hi Rasmus, what an honor!

can you please give me some example code?

you are saying that self:: points to an abstract not-implemented
method?

for example:

abstract class cA
{
      static function A(){self::B();}
      abstract static function B();
}


in this case can be thrown an error, but using static:: the call refers
to the called class method, not the declaring class

static function A(){static::B();}

so it can be re-enabled in this case, no?

in php static methods are really powerful unlike java's, c#'s, don't
limit them!

why interfaces allows static abstract methods? how self:: is resolved?

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[2010-10-16 07:21:47] rasmus@php.net

Sorry, I re-read that explanation, that didn't make sense.  I meant to
say that 
methods in an abstract class require that any instance of that class
implement 
those methods, but static methods belong to the class, not an instance. 
You can't 
call methods from an abstract class, you can only call them in instances
of that 
class, but static methods by definition belong to the class, but since
you can't 
call methods in an abstract class you could never call these static
methods so 
there is no point in them being there.

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[2010-10-16 07:15:35] rasmus@php.net

A static method belongs to the class, not to an instance of that class
and since 
you can't have an instance of an abstract class, static methods make no
sense in 
abstract classes.  It is really that simple.

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