Req #53081 [Com]: why you should bring back abstract static methods

From: Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 17:27:23 +0000
Subject: Req #53081 [Com]: why you should bring back abstract static methods
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 ID:                 53081
 Comment by:         keith at madsync dot com
 Reported by:        giorgio dot liscio at email dot it
 Summary:            why you should bring back abstract static methods
 Status:             Not a bug
 Type:               Feature/Change Request
 Package:            Class/Object related
 PHP Version:        5.3.3
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

"abstract" means required implementation by subclasses, "static" means declared
on the class.  ignoring the internals of php's construction for a moment, and how difficult
proper implementation of the feature might be, these are orthogonal concepts. "abstract static
function X" means "classes extending this one must declare static method X."  

right now in order to enforce a static contract, i have to use an interface *and* an abstract class.
 this means more code and more distributed functionality in my codebase. worse, i have to remember
to implement the interface on every child class, which almost defeats the purpose of having the
interface in the first place - "class A extends Letter implements IAlphabet + abstract class
Letter" rather than "class A extends Letter + abstract class Letter implements
IAlphabet." and the only purpose of IAlphabet is to enforce that A contains some static method?
 ugh.  that should be Letter's job, it's why i made it abstract in the first place.

allowing static and abstract to work together as the orthogonal concepts they are leads to simpler,
more readable, better-distributed code, and doesn't require i instantiate objects for
functionality not related to object state.  the fact that the static method on the parent class is
not a part of the child's inheritance seems to me irrelevant.  please include this feature
again in future releases.


Previous Comments:
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[2013-01-08 23:18:13] jon at langevin dot me

Valid issue, please re-classify as a bug. This is not a feature request.

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[2012-01-19 18:20:39] andy at andy-burton dot co dot uk

Still get strict warning in 5.3.2 - static abstract classes in 5.3 make perfect 
sense to me, no idea why this is flagged as bogus!

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[2010-11-14 19:10:34] giorgio dot liscio at email dot it

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[2010-10-20 16:47:42] giorgio dot liscio at email dot it

i know... could someone analyze my request please? i know that a lot of bug reports are bogus, but
not all

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[2010-10-17 13:59:48] cmanley at xs4all dot nl

Georgio,
Your example makes perfect sense. I just wish the bug handlers wouldn't be so rude 
as to flag valid reports as bogus when users spend effort to report these bugs 
with examples.

There's nothing bad about having abstract static methods in a language that 
finally supports static inheritance (since PHP 5.3). This is normal practice in 
other languages too so E_STRICT shouldn't be emitted.

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