Re: Ternary operator enhancement for fluent code

I'm with Rasmus on this. These operators do not make sense to me at first glance, and would frustrate any newcomers, IMHO. On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, waldschrott wrote the following to Rasmus Lerdorf : > Hi Rasmus, > Hm, you´re not right, not forcible. Not every enhancement makes sense. > But if no one adds functionality to a livinig language there´s no > progress... > > I think at least !! and ?? are worth a try, I could apply them very > often and it isn´t as complicated as you promoted it: > > if(!!$a) { $b = $c ?&? $d; } > if variable $a not equals FALSE, set var $b to $c(if set) else to $d. > > Nothing complicated in here, I did know that Andi,you and co wouldn´t > like them (deviation from C,Java...), thus I´ve only posted the most > important one (?? op) - if you think of PHP better beeing easier to > read, without the need to think, for everyone than adding mighty > operators for experienced ones, gaining sore fingers by typing: > > if ($var_1!==FALSE) { if (isset($object1->current_state) > $retval=$object1->current_state; else $ret=$object2->current_state; } > > what could be done using > if (!!$var_1) $ret= $object1->current_state ?&? $object2->current_state; > > , then I`ll possibly have no chance at all. > > > He will curse you and your family since this does not look like anything > > else in any other language, and it is difficult to look up !! or ?&? in an > > online manual. > > That´s not true, just go to operators->comparison op->(...) and you´ll > find "!!" and "??", not significantly harder than trying to find > "?:" > > > >From a performance point of view there is minimal gain here as the opcodes > > generated will be the same and the 6 or 8 less bytes the parse has to > > parse is insignificant. > > I´ll have to trust you, I don´t know much about these internals. > > At least !! is an enhancement that would fit to PHPs peculiarities like > "automatic conversion"... > > regards > > >