Re: Re: 4.0.6

At 12:48 3.5. 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- >At 12:47 PM 5/3/2001 +0200, Cynic wrote: >>Zeev, >> >>do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so. >>Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that >>the Apache release cycle is far (in a galaxy far, far away.. :) >>stricter than the PHP one. > >Is it? I'm not that sure. They also release with known bugs although I admit to not knowing >their exact release cycle so I won't comment more on this :) By the way, in Zeev's not >very successful way of using that N word what he meant was a dictatorship that makes binary >decisions about everyone else. That's all he meant IMO. Well, AFAICT only a limited group of people can commit, and whoever (including the commiters) has a patch, it's proposed, and discussed. That means nothing is committed without peer review. I think this qualifies as "far stricter". :) >>4.0.5 took very long to release, and it seems like it could >>have been released a month ago - pl1 is inevitable anyway. > >I don't see a pl1 happening. We will go right to 4.0.6. If that happens soon... Labels are just labels. :) >>On the other hand, I must say that the win32 version of PHP >>these days is great. When I recall the days 6-8 months ago, >>it's incredible how much has been achieved. >> >>One more thing: unless I'm mistaken, vast majority of people >>who have raised their voices has voted for tighter rules. >>I'm of the same opinion. Without an effective way to impose >>their judgement, the QA team is just a joke. (...) >In any case, thank god we don't have communication problems so I think everyone's >voice will be heard when patches are merged into the release branch. >Anyway, why are we continuing to waste time on this instead of fixing bugs and emptying the bugs >database. >4.0.5 was pretty fine and we'll tighten things for 4.0.6. I'm sure that after this >whole Email exchange more people will be watching the release branch and more people will be >shouting "STOP". And they will be heard! >It'll work out OK. Don't worry about it. So in the end, this wasn't a waste of time. Ok, just from memory, at least these people are shouting "no new features in the release branch" (in no particular order): James Moore, Zak Greant, Jani Taskinen, Sascha Schumann, Derick Rethans, Steve Langasek, and me. Are we heard? :) Don't get me wrong, things are getting better, but they wouldn't be without being talked about. That is, I'm not complaining or something. cynic@mail.cz ------------- And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files. - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7