Re: Re: 4.0.6

Jani wrote: > <CRAZY IDEA> > Maybe we should have something like the terrorist cells? > ie. groups of 3 persons who know only about the one above them? > > X > __|_ > / \ > a b > / | \ / \ > c (d) e e g > [...] > </CRAZY IDEA> Wow.... this sounds like one of my ideas Jani. :) All we need now are some phpqat_tree_balance, phpqat_tree_... functions and we are good to go! ;) Seriously, IMO, this would be something fun to test off list in one of the lags between a RC. We might learn something neat and we might come up with a bunch of useless but wickedly funny TLAs. :) > >>4.0.5 took very long to release, and it seems like it could > >>have been released a month ago - pl1 is inevitable anyway. > >I don't see a pl1 happening. We will go right to 4.0.6. > > Why would we need a pl? As there really isn't anything that > broken which would need it? (nothing that broken that wasn't > broken before) > > >I don't think that the QA team is a joke just because they can't > >necessarily pull the plug on a release. Don't forget that a lot of the QA > > Yes it is. As long as there is less than 5 persons who can decide > on this, QA is a joke. > > >Anyway, why are we continuing to waste time on this instead of fixing bugs > >and emptying the bugs database. > > At last he gets to the point! :) After taking the time to really think about the current state of the QA process, I think that we are doing just fine. Our current process is better than the old process (aka none) Now, each of us is smart enough to be able to single-handedly rework the process into a perfect shining vision of how QA should run. ;) However, as a group, we have to be moderate - or perhaps to rephrase that, we can't ramrod changes past Zeev. ;) Those of us who want to improve the process can do so by watching the areas that matter to us. I want to keep unneeded changes out of the RC process. My opinion on RCs is like my mother's opinion on dinner: Don't heap up your plate so much, you can always go back for seconds. So, I should watch CVS and squeal when anything non bug related comes down the pipe. If I do this regularly, I would guess that I would have a much greater effect than any written set of strict guidelines. I think that if each of us takes a healthy interest in the areas that matter to us and works to help handle the relevant part of the process, we will find that the process smooths out. Take a look at who has made the most difference in how we do things - it is not the people who make policies for other people to follow. It is the people who do the work and in doing so, establish how others should do it. --zak