Re: Security Issues

From: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:05:41 +0000
Subject: Re: Security Issues
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Phil Driscoll schrieb:

> On Sunday 29 July 2001 17:35, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> > *sigh* :)  As I said numerous times, PHP gives you standard clean ways to
> > test your variables without generating E_NOTICE's, namely, isset() (very
> > popular) and empty() (less popular, but available all the same).  There's a
> > good, fairly darned good chance that exploitable code will generate no
> > warnings whatsoever, and that code that was written with cleanliness in
> > mind will actually be more difficult to debug than sucky
> > E_NOTICE-generating code would.
>
> We'll have to agree to differ - Over the last year I must have downloaded
> about 50 PHP scripts from the popular places with a view to using them. ALL
> of them - yes every last one - generated warning messages under E_WARNING.
> People who code sloppily, code sloppily, the warning messages will get out.
> Even people who code well but don't test under E_WARNING will find that
> E_WARNING is their friend. I don't think that the typical uses of isset and
> empty actually serve to hide the warning messages that would appear in
> vulnerable code.
>
> Anyway, I'll shut up now and leave you in peace :)
>
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> Phil Driscoll
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