Re: Setting up RFC

At 21:24 15-08-01, Sterling Hughes wrote:

    Ohhhhh - I see! So the "Zend" on the License is really just shorthand for
    "Zeev and Andi", has nothing to do with Zend Technologies Ltd.  Good
    to know. ;))

In practice, pretty much, yes. I don't remember Doron's, Adi's or Daniel's last contributions :)

    As I said -- this may have no basis in practicality -- I think it
    does to some extent, otherwise you wouldn't hear this many
    reasonable (but sometimes passionate) people complaining.  Still,
    taking your assumption that the license and Zend's control of it is
    meaningless, why not go ahead and change the license today?  If it
    means nothing, why are you with a license that causes such strife in
    the PHP community?

A small part in the PHP developer community, mind you. As I told Stig, it is what you make of it - practically, it's nothing.

If you'd like, I'll go setup a sourceforge project for

    the Zend engine today!

I don't want to see the engine as a sourceforge project today, tomorrow, or anytime in the future, thank you very much :) As I said in LinuxTag, the license issue was blown out of proportion completely. It has no practical meaning for any PHP user or developer. Changing the license only means that we will no longer be able to re-license the engine to other companies who make commercial use of it. So basically, changing it means a loss of a source of possible income for Zend, while giving the PHP community nothing (MySQL AB *lives* from that source of income exactly). Perception wise, it might make the world much more rosy. To be bluntly honest, I seriously doubt it (we're not in a bad shape today, plus I have every reason to believe that things won't change radically if&when we change the license). As far as Zend is perceived, much like the license issue was a non issue until some made it an issue, I fear that once it's gone, there'll be something else to replace it. When you don't like somebody or something, you can find whatever suite of 'objective' reasons to back you up. Zeev