Re: Linux Today Article

From: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 07:58:21 +0000
Subject: Re: Linux Today Article
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On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 02:24:27AM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >I've rambled a bit, but my feeling is that the Linux Today Article is > >premature. PHP can (and likely will) support the features mentioned in the > >article, but the real question is, are these really the features that are > >going to be used? > Very nice non-PC statement! :) A programming language is not only a tool and a framework, it also is a set of people sharing a common vision and working together - a community. What Microsoft provided with .net is not so much a product - yet. It is a vision, though, and a plan where they want to go in the next few years. So to compete here, PHP need not only be superior in technical checklist items, it also has to provide a kind of development roadmap, a plan where it wants to be in 3 and in 5 years, and what services it will provide to developers then. That is the PHP vision that the language and the system needs to stand the marketing onslaught by Microsoft. Note how other communities, notably Perl, provided such a vision in the past (e.g. the mythical Perl compiler), and continue to provide such visions now (e.g. Perl 6 and flexible scanners to turn Perl into the one language to parse all syntaxes). Larry provides even more - with his speeches and interviews he even provides a kind of philosophy behind Perl, a greater concept to explain not only how, but also why things have been done the way they have been done. As you can see in the case of Perl, the vision need not be final, useful or even true, it just needs to be cool, and believable. It is being used as a tool to bind the community tigther together, to provide hope and a sense of direction. To come back to PHP: What is the place of PHP in 3 and in 5 years, what are the next big projects tackled in the development of PHP, and what is the larger idea behind PHP - what does the language _want_ to become, and what audience will it cater. If you can answer these questions for your developing audience, these answers will have a large influence on the qualification and quantity of audience you have. PHP 2005 - If you code it, they will come. Kristian -- Kristian Köhntopp, NetUSE AG Dr.-Hell-Straße, D-24107 Kiel Tel: +49 431 386 435 00, Fax: +49 431 386 435 99

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