RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

Stig, I am not keeping up with which PHP SOAP implementations are complete and which are not. I guess I am confused like many of our users. I didn't say we should reinvent the wheel. All I said is that everyone should get together and standardize PHP's SOAP support and get it documented and advertised. If the best base will be xmlrpc-epi (time for a name change? :) then that's fine. Andi At 23:15 23/05/2002 +0200, Stig S. Bakken wrote:

PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which is built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle. Why can't people improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all shapes and sizes? When we bundle a library, we should use it. - Stig On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 17:52, Andi Gutmans wrote: I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation bundled with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating around. If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list where interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official" PHP Soap implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I personally don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the suggestion :) It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it forward. I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP. Andi At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:

hi brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far from being stable. he made a good use of WSDL ... you should have look to http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/

-----Original Message----- From: Markus Wolff [mailto:wolff@21st.de] Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29 To: smith@dybnet.de Cc: php-dev@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith" <smith@dybnet.de>:

What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in php? How mature are the solutions? When will they be ready for primetime? Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used to

show off

how great the support is) or are there any other prominent

examples? (I

know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did something with Googles Webservices)

We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a VB.NET SOAP client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most primitive datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ... It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures like resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and passed via SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either use a loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to represent that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to make the client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP script. I have not the slightest idea where to start looking. I´ve read tons of articles on SOAP and WSDL, but all in all, the quality of documentation on this topic sucks. PEAR::SOAP itself is as good as undocumented (at least the server part) and the documentation for .NET webservices mostly talks about

connecting

an ASP.NET webservice to a C# or VB.NET client. When it comes to making SOAP calls to a client/server on another software platform, or even if you just want to use SOAP-RPC encoding instead of the default Document/Literal encoding that .NET does, the documentation is very uncomplete. Thing is, you _have_ to use SOAP-RPC encoding because PEAR::SOAP does not yet support Document/Literal (in fact, Microsoft seem to be the

only

ones who use this encoding method by default or even fully support it). I guess when it comes to maturity, all available implementations in any language still have a long way to go. Regards, Markus --

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