RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL

I think, by the way, that this could be a good time to drop the php- prefix from new mailing list names. Do we really need to point out that it's PHP related, when the domain is lists.php.net? :) Zeev At 00:20 24/05/2002, Lukas Smith wrote:

Shane also did not like the term and I can see where you all are coming from. But I think the mailinglist should cover a broader scope than just soap and this is usually done under the name "web services" php-xml-based-rpc@ this could mislead to making it sound xml-rpc centric and its not really php-rpc@ either and this would maybe not be a name that people would immediately point their soap answers to ... all in all "web services" maybe a non programmers choice (maybe even "marketing" guys choice), but do we have a better name to wrap these technologies into? php-webservice-tools@ might be better to make clear that this list is more about the tools than about discussing actual web services .. anyways I can live with php-soap@ as well .. so who ever is in charge make the call or let the head honchos about this topic (like shane or brad) deside what the prefer :-) Best regards, Lukas Smith smith@dybnet.de _______________________________ DybNet Internet Solutions GbR Reuchlinstr. 10-11 Gebäude 4 1.OG Raum 6 (4.1.6) 10553 Berlin Germany Tel. : +49 30 83 22 50 00 Fax : +49 30 83 22 50 07 www.dybnet.de info@dybnet.de -----Original Message----- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@php.net] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:08 PM To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Shane Caraveo; php-dev@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL I really don't like the term Web Services. SOAP is an RPC mechanism and has nothing to do with the web despite what M$ would like to have you think. -Rasmus On Fri, 24 May 2002, Andi Gutmans wrote:

As I mentioned earlier I am a big +1 for it. Probably php-webservices@ is even better as it covers more and

sounds good :)

Andi At 11:05 23/05/2002 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

So do we want a php-soap@lists.php.net mailing list? I can set it

up if

you say the word. -Rasmus On Thu, 23 May 2002, Shane Caraveo wrote:

I would be happy to lead the effort on the soap front. I've

spoken a

bit with Brad about combining our efforts but got sidetracked

over the

last couple weeks so haven't followed up on that. I'm also not

sure

whether Deitrich is tied to NuSphere with his work, it'd be nice

if we

could get him to work on this also (I'm sure he's lurking here

;).

There have been a couple others contacting me about working on

the soap

stuff as well. Shane Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: pear/SOAP seems to work pretty well. There are few people out

there that

know more about SOAP than Shane and I am quite comfortable

having him

spearheading this effort. We can easily set up a php-soap

mailing list if

enough people are interested. -Rasmus On Thu, 23 May 2002, Lukas Smith wrote:

Yeah, I keep seeing PHP SOAP and XMLRPC being announce packages everywhere. But incompatible API's will not benefit PHP much and the efforts are simply redundant. I think it would make sense to create such a mailinglist. As I am still fairly busy with working on a merge of Metabase and PEAR DB called MDB (blatant plug :-) ) I can't spend as much time as I would wish on this topic. For now I will try to order the feedback I get and put together a little static page with the content. Basically I will take every package I find and list it there and put any comments people send regarding that package underneath. Best regards, Lukas Smith smith@dybnet.de

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