RE: [PHP-DEV] trans-sid warning?
| From: | Rasmus Lerdorf | Date: | Tue, 20 Aug 2002 02:27:39 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP-DEV] trans-sid warning? | ||
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This is not the issue we are discussing. PHP already times out inactive
sessions, and in this particular case the session has even been created
yet, so there is nothing to time out.
-Rasmus
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Xavier Spriet wrote:
> (I might have sent this one twice again...)
> ------
> why not simply allow a maximum amount of time a session can exist (let's say, 25 minutes).
> This could be customised or even disabled by the administrator so it won't be a flea to
> regular users, and even though it won't be bulletproof, it will make things considerably more
> complicated for the attacker.
> Sending a link and hoping it will be clicked in the next 25 minutes is just trying your luck.
>
> Also a good web developer aware of this will most certainly put a little informing text such
> as:
> You are currently loged in as: you loged in with the following IPaddr/Uagent: blablah.
>
> Xavier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sascha Schumann [mailto:sascha@apache.org]
> Sent: Mon 19/08/2002 8:50 PM
> To: George Schlossnagle
> Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf; Yasuo Ohgaki; php-dev@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] trans-sid warning?
>
>
>
> > To play devil's advocate, pure cookie based authentication is not a
> > panacea. If you allow users to put things like javascript on your site,
> > or if you have users who exploit ie bugs like the about: cookie domain
> > bug from last year, cookies can be stolen and session hijacked. pure
> > cookie auth is definitely a good thing, but does not provide safety in a
> > number of 'real world' applications.
>
> Yes, I pointed that out in an earlier discussion about this
> topic. A online-banking site could for example check the
> browser for certain types of common vulnerabilities and post
> a nice "please upgrade" dialogue.
>
> This would exclude IE by default though, because there are
> quite a load of unfixed, publically known security bugs.
>
> http://www.jscript.dk/unpatched/ listed them, but the page
> seems to be down now. Google still finds
>
> http://www.jscript.dk/unpatched/MS02-023update.html
>
> "Yesterday I hosted a list of 14 publickly known unpatched
> vulnerabilities, today I host a list of 12 such. It can still
> be found at http://jscript.dk/unpatched/
>
> - Sascha
>
>
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