Re: Transparent SID support

On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 08:44, Dan Hardiker wrote: I think it would be a very bad idea to change this in any minor version. Speaking from a purely public point of view (as someone who sits in php help channels on IRC for most of his working day)... You're actually paid to help people on IRC ? Where do I sign in ? When register_globals was defaulted to off there was mass confusion as to why their scripts didnt work. This isnt because there wasnt the information, this isnt because it wasnt documented. This is because people dont RTFM and dont think. They just think "arg it doesnt work, php is broken". Firstly, changing another default as major as transid (many websites I know use this feature without checking) will break alot of sites where the admins dont read the upgrade notes, causing the same panic as before. As a programming language, PHP is aimed at developers and people who will be using PHP for mission critical applications perfectly know from experience than not reading the upgrade notes, announcements and new docs is a no-no And for the IRC users that you qualify as the spawn of the devil, why not set your IRC channels' topics to something like http://www.php.net/release_4_2_0.php or http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.variables.predefined.php Secondly, it will emmit the impression that PHP is changing its fundamental settings and they will come to expect that upgrading will be backwardly incompatable... although we all (on this list - I hope) know that it IS bc, but you have to just open your eyes to work out the switches to flip. No solution has been reached concerning the trans-sid question anyway so this is not a concern. BTW: I do like the idea of it being switched off - Im just not sure how to do it without panicing the peons... if done in a bug-release then they certainly wont expect it. Most of them dont read the README at all (let alone any file called UPGRADING) and if they do its only when upgrading PHP vX.Y.Z when X is changing, or Y is changing significantly. I share your opinion in the fact that changing this in a bugfix release is a bad surprise. PS: Just playing devils advocate - and believe me, all the people who complained about the register globals changing BEFORE reading the docs ARE devil spawn and the bane of my existance heh ... no offence intended ;) I just hope these people are not reading your message right now in the PHP mailing list archives ;-) > My thoughts exactly. Any other input on that? > Zeev > >> > - Transparent sid support is now disabled by default. (Yasuo) >> > >> > I haven't followed the trans-sid discussion closely, but did we >> decide to change the behavior within a bug-fix release?? >> >>AFAIK this was not discussed, but IMO it's a bad idea to change this in >> a bug-fix release. -- Dan Hardiker [dhardiker@staff.firstcreative.net] ADAM Software & Systems Engineer First Creative Ltd -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Xavier Spriet Next Dimension Inc. xavier@nextdimensioninc.com Tel: (519)-945-2032 Ext. 233