Re: Bug #16476 Updated: unpacking

From: Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 17:38:15 +0000
Subject: Re: Bug #16476 Updated: unpacking
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Let's agree to disagree :) I still think .zip or .tar.gz is the right way to go for Windows users. Andi At 09:10 08/04/2002 +0200, Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
I definitely would go for either .zip or .tar.gz. I think .zip on Windows is preferable but as .tar.gz is supported by Winzip it's OK too. I don't think it's right to start educating windows users like Gabor says. It has nothing to do with bzip2 being hard but with the fact that barely anyone has it installed under Windows. Let's see who downloads the manual: a) A guy who used PHP before b) A guy who is new to PHP In either case, that guy will program in a language, write source code, set permissions on a server, upload via FTP, and do many other things not automated by click-and-play style software. We have no WYSIWYG editor for PHP, PHP is not about clicking 15-20, and putting up a new application. PHP is programming. Cannot we expect from that guy to download a small bzip executable, and go to the command line to issue *one* command and extract that bz2 file? Just go through the PHP installation instructions for Windows/Apache, where guys need to unzip a package, rename files, move some to the system dir, move some to the windows dir, edit a text file for configuration. Can we expect that guy mentioned above to do this, if he cannot even issue *one* command to extract a file? I think no, we cannot. Those users should not be treated lamers. They are going to program in a language, which is much more complex, than running a command line copy-pasted from an FAQ. BTW. about bzip2 availability we can think of putting a small bunzip to the windows binary zip and installer distributions to make sure, that guys with PHP already downloaded bzip2 availability is not a problem. License questions are important here, though... BTW why don't we provide a .doc format of the manual? Guys on windows most likely have word than acrobat reader... Because it gives nothing more than pdf. PDF is cross platform, smaller, etc. Goba


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