OT project dev prroces was .. Paying Job...

On 25 Jul 2002 at 12:12, Matt Babineau wrote: > When first speaking with a client, would you charge an initial > constation fee for lets say conference calls? How would you invoice > stuff like this? on a monthly basis? Or every two weeks? Hi, I apologize for adding some noise but I really don't know of a good list for these things. I keep planning on putting my smartarchitectures.com site to use for this as so many problems are non langauge specific but we always ask in our favorite language list. Anyhow, Here is how I have done and prefer to do a project (but TMTOWDI of course) Initial meeting is free. This has usually be filtered by sales or some other means. But I always think talking ideas is worth time. I'm a bit cautious about giving out any really good ideas in this meeting. Try to see if client is serious. From this meeting I then work up an estimate of the followin ... oh heck here is a proposal I did (my first "proposal" since I become a free-lancer): http://www.coremodules.com/customer/memphisworks_proposal.php The client did not accept me :(. They went with someone else. I did mention to the client, are you ready, that they use HR XML standards so seekers and suppliers of jobs can talk to the site via XML .. that means that you the job seeker would not have to repeate the same old thing (if you have your resume in a database like your dear friend) but could just upload the XML file of your resume and thus populate all the fields and that the supplier could upload job offers via XML and not pay some drone to create typos in forms. Even though the client was in the HR business she had never heard of XML. Oh well. I go into more detail about what the proposal above refers to here: http://www.coremodules.com/process/doc_process.php Yes, some of that comes from some Proejct Management books I've read. I believe a system, even if flawed, is better than no system at all. NOTE, yes, I know some links are broken from that page. BTW, at the ad agency I worked at, we billed on a regular schedule. Peter