Re: Re: Zend + Eclipse + Standized Framework

Greg Donald wrote:

On Mon, 2005-11-14 at 03:55 -0500, Roman Ivanov wrote:

What features do you need from a framework?

Convention over configuration. (Yaml, not XML. ActiveRecord not Propel/Phing.)

Hard to do in pure PHP. But I tried: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECMS_0_3/tools/ori.php?rev=1.1.1.1&view=markup

A persist-able domain model where logic and data are presented in one wrapping. (I don't want to re-assign my data in the view for use in the template after it's already ready already in the controller, pointless.)

Don't know what you're talking about. Example?

A database-agnostic database abstraction layer capable of using database meta data effectively. (Why am I still writing SQL?)

LOL. What you really want is a built-in high-performance object-oriented database with decent OO interface. So far I hacked this thing, using MySQL: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/naturalgine/NECMS_0_3/tools/nodes.php?rev=1.2&view=markup When I port the whole thing to PHP 5, I will try to make it to use PDO.

Ajax, built-in. (Cause all the cool kids are using it.)

Will be done some day. Right now, you can use AJAX all you want, but you have to code it yourself.