Re: WWE in Stamford, CT needs a kick ass PHP Developer!

Nice observation. On 4/13/07, Robert Cummings <robert@interjinn.com> wrote:

Dear Tedd, Please put me down for one pint of asshole, because while you sit on that glass pedestal of CSS superiority I can't help but notice how http://ancientstones.com/ looks completely fucked up in Opera. Opera I might add is ACID2 compliant. Now please go shove your "better than thou CSS up your ass" :) Trust me, I am at least as versed as you in CSS and choose to use tables. Cheers, Rob. On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 20:02 -0400, tedd wrote: At 6:31 PM -0500 4/12/07, Richard Lynch wrote:

On Thu, April 12, 2007 1:34 pm, Robert Cummings wrote:

... It's too bad, I love CSS, it makes for really clean markup, but using it completely in place of tables just isn't feasible right now without resorting to CSS "tricks". And using tricks is just as much against the spirit of CSS as using tables for layout :)

While straying even more OT than usual, I must chime in with "me too" I cannot count the number of times I've seen CSS purists pull out gnarly disgusting hacks, far worse than any nested table layout, to work around browser incompatibilities. It would be nice if CSS actually let designers specify what they need to specify. [Can you say 3-column layout with page footer?] And if browsers actually implemented CSS correctly... But, really, CSS is still lacking in what seems to me some basic fundamentals in terms of being able to say "put this thing here, and that thing there" and you end up resorting to all kinds of non-intuitive code to get the look you want...

Richard, you surprise me. CSS is like any other tool -- learn to use it and it will work. As far as any layout, if you can show an example it can be done in css. As far as replacing tables, CSS doesn't -- it provides tables even more versatility. Tables have their place, but not in layout. Lastly, one man's gnarly disgusting hack, is another man's way around a short coming of IE. How many times have you had to use javascript to accomplish a task instead of using just php? One could call that a gnarly disgusting hack, but it's just a solution. As this list proves, no language is without problems. Cheers, tedd -- ------- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- .------------------------------------------------------------. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :------------------------------------------------------------: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn |

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