Re: New to PHP question
| From: | Ashley Sheridan | Date: | Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:23:01 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: New to PHP question | ||
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On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 13:45 -0700, Don Collier wrote:
>
> Paul M Foster wrote:
> > See? This is what I'm talking about.
> >
> > *I* understand what you're saying, Don, and I agree. But this guy is
> > just learning PHP from what is arguably not one of the best books on PHP
> > (IMO). And you're throwing MVC at him. Let him master the subtleties of
> > the language first, then we'll give him the MVC speech.
> >
> > Yes, I know, they should learn proper programming practices from the
> > beginning, blah blah blah. But think back to the first programming
> > language you ever learned, when you were first learning it. If someone
> > had thrown stuff like this at you, would you have had a clue? I had
> > enough trouble just learning the proper syntax and library routines for
> > Dartmouth BASIC and Pascal, without having to deal with a lot of
> > "metaprogramming" stuff.
> >
> > This is the problem when you get newbies asking questions on a list
> > whose membership includes hardcore gurus. The gurus look at things in
> > such a lofty way that answering simple questions at the level of a
> > beginner sounds like a dissertation on the subtleties of Spanish art in
> > the 1500s.
> >
> > Just my opinion.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> On that note, what would be a better book to learn from? I have always
> been a fan of the O'Reilly books, but I am open to differing flavors of
> kool-aid. One can never have too many resources.
>
I agree with your choice; never seen a bad O'Reilly book yet.
Ash
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