Re: New to PHP question

Boyd, Todd M. wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen [mailto:stephen-d@rogers.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:41 PM >> To: Paul M Foster >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP] New to PHP question >> >> Paul M Foster wrote: >>> If you want exact layout (columns >>> lined up, etc.), the simplest solution is to use HTML tables. >>> >>> >>> >> The horror. >> >> Do not use tables for layout. >> >> Use CSS. >> >> Especially now that Microsoft, just this week, is sending out IE 8 >> which >> seems to be fully CCS standards compliant. > > Your high horse--get off of it. > > Are you not familiar with "div-itis"? If I need to represent data in a > grid-style layout, I am going to use a <table> every time instead of > making tons of <div> elements and tying them into the appropriate CSS. > > http://www.giveupandusetables.com > > Also... as far as I know, XHTML 1.0 Strict and XHTML 1.1 still include > the <table> tags. I can understand wanting to separate style from > structure, but I think that tables are more structural than stylish. You > have to draw the line somewhere. > > If you're displaying tabular data, use a table. If you just want stuff > to be in a grid and the structure has no bearing on the content, then > it's time to weigh in. > > Finally, just because IE8 is (supposed to be) fully CSS standards > compliant doesn't mean anything for IE7, IE6, IE5, etc. > > > // Todd Or firefox for that matter. I tried to do a completely css site and when I got it looking great in ff/linux, it looked horrible in IE. Then when it looked better in IE and better in ff/linux, it had some issues iin ff/windows. I love tables and will use them for most layouts until they are removed from (x)html :-) -Shawn -- Thanks! -Shawn http://www.spidean.com