Re: Conclusion of "use strict"...
| From: | Hans Schultz | Date: | Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:46:32 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Conclusion of "use strict"... | ||
| Groups: | php.general | ||
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Thanks for reply, I completely understood your answer even in previous thread, but you should
understand few very simple things1. I am not working alone, so I can't make other people use
tools I use (eclipse + PDT at the moment)
2. even if somehow I manage to do number 1 we also have some legacy code from where ocassionally
popup some idiotic bug (like that I mentioned with typo in property name)I hope (because of 1 and 2)
you can understand that eclipse + PDT is not answer to my problem. Now, since I need some way to do
these checks for all code paths (and not just currently running one) that is why I am more
interested for something able to do those checks in compile time (ie, my javac will report to me
uninitialized variable if I have some code path that could miss initialization of variable I am
using later); since almost everyone agreed that could be done by some compiler I found php compiler
(that for fact really exist, and I even posted llnk to it), since I need to use windows for
development and compiler has trial version for linux I was curious if someone used it and if it
could help me with my problems... So, question is NOT whether php is interpreted or compiled, or is
there a compiler, question is rather is that compiler useful for my problem.Best regards
--- On Wed, 3/4/09, 9el <lenin@phpxperts.net> wrote:
From: 9el <lenin@phpxperts.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP] Conclusion of "use strict"...
To: h.schultz78@yahoo.com
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:20 PM
You got it all wrong. As explained, php dont have real compile time like other languages. And if you
want to learn a language, you have to start the way it acts. the E_STRICT setting will tell you most
of the errors possible from a php script.
At production level programmers keep the errors away from visitors eyes by redirecting them all to
log files.
If you use PDT like NetBeans (which is regarded as the best one yet... there's one version of
Visual PHP for Visual Studio developers as well)
As you have got to check the errors for typos its the best way to get aid of the PDT IDEs. Thats my
personal opinion.
Lenin
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Hans Schultz <h.schultz78@yahoo.com> wrote:
Concluding, and one idea...I think I received satisfying advices on everything but first question
(Detection of typos and other simple mistakes). And we were talking also about being able to catch
them at compile time, then if php at all has compile time etc. Today one thing crossed my mind -- if
there is compiler for php maybe it can catch these errors natively, like java compiler for java?
Unfortunatelly there is no recent version available for windows so I can't test it myself
(http://www.roadsend.com/home/index.php?pageID=compiler). I am interesting if someone is using it,
and if it can detect this simple mistakes (I am using eclipse + php plugin, but I feel there is
something wrong in depending on editor to detect programming errors :-) )
Regards to all,
--- On Thu, 2/26/09, Ovidiu Rosoiu <ovidiu.rosoiu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ovidiu Rosoiu <ovidiu.rosoiu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP] "use strict" or similar in PHP?
To: "Hans Schultz" <h.schultz78@yahoo.com>
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:14 PM
Hans Schultz wrote:
> Hello,
> I am beginner with PHP and prior to PHP I have worked with java for some
time
> and with perl for very short period. I can't help to notice some
things that
> are little annoyance for me with PHP, but I am sure someone more
experienced
> can help me :-)
> Is there in PHP something like "use strict" from perl? I find it
pretty
> annoying to need to run script over and over again just to find out that I
> made typo in variable name.
> Is there some way for PHP to cache some data on the page? I like very much
> PHP's speed but it would be even better to be able to cache some
frequently
> used data from database?
> Also regarding databases, I liked a lot java's way of sending data to
database
> using parameters ("select * from user where username = ?" and
then passing
> parameter separately with database doing necessary escaping and
everything).
> Is there something like PHPDBC similar to JDBC?