Re: Conclusion of "use strict"...

Hans Schultz schreef: > Thanks for reply, I completely understood your answer even in previous thread, but you should > understand few very simple things1. I am not working alone, so I can't make other people use > tools I use (eclipse + PDT at the moment) > 2. even if somehow I manage to do number 1 we also have some legacy code from where > ocassionally popup some idiotic bug (like that I mentioned with typo in property name)I hope > (because of 1 and 2) you can understand that eclipse + PDT is not answer to my problem. Now, since I > need some way to do these checks for all code paths (and not just currently running one) that is why > I am more interested for something able to do those checks in compile time (ie, my javac will report > to me uninitialized variable if I have some code path that could miss initialization of variable I > am using later); since almost everyone agreed that could be done by some compiler I found php > compiler (that for fact really exist, and I even posted llnk to it), since I need to use windows for > development and compiler has trial version for linux I was curious if someone used it and if it > could help me with my problems.. So, question is NOT whether php is interpreted or compiled, or is > there a compiler, question is rather is that compiler useful for my problem.Best regards 1. you should *try* to standardize everyone on a single IDE/tool-chain 2. a decent IDE will give warnings about vars that are [seemingly] uninitialized or used only once. 3. a compiler can't cover all situations (variable variables, vars defined in optional includes, etc) 4. there is no silver bullet. 5. try to compartmentalize code so that the scope of a var doesn't exceed the number of lines you can view in a single screen (makes it easier to spot typos, etc) 6. I am not a number. > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, 9el <lenin@phpxperts.net> wrote: > > From: 9el <lenin@phpxperts.net> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Conclusion of "use strict"... > To: h.schultz78@yahoo.com > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:20 PM > > You got it all wrong. As explained, php dont have real compile time like other languages. And > if you want to learn a language, you have to start the way it acts. the E_STRICT setting will tell > you most of the errors possible from a php script. > > At production level programmers keep the errors away from visitors eyes by redirecting them all > to log files. > If you use PDT like NetBeans (which is regarded as the best one yet... there's one version > of Visual PHP for Visual Studio developers as well) > > As you have got to check the errors for typos its the best way to get aid of the PDT IDEs. > Thats my personal opinion. > > Lenin > > www.twitter.com/nine_L > www.lenin9l.wordpress.com > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get > a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit : > > www.ubuntu.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Hans Schultz <h.schultz78@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Concluding, and one idea...I think I received satisfying advices on everything but first > question (Detection of typos and other simple mistakes). And we were talking also about being able > to catch them at compile time, then if php at all has compile time etc. Today one thing crossed my > mind -- if there is compiler for php maybe it can catch these errors natively, like java compiler > for java? Unfortunatelly there is no recent version available for windows so I can't test it > myself (http://www.roadsend.com/home/index.php?pageID=compiler). I am interesting if someone is > using it, and if it can detect this simple mistakes (I am using eclipse + php plugin, but I feel > there is something wrong in depending on editor to detect programming errors :-) ) > > > Regards to all, > > --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Ovidiu Rosoiu <ovidiu.rosoiu@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Ovidiu Rosoiu <ovidiu.rosoiu@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [PHP] "use strict" or similar in PHP? > > To: "Hans Schultz" <h.schultz78@yahoo.com> > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 9:14 PM > > > > Hans Schultz wrote: > >> Hello, > >> I am beginner with PHP and prior to PHP I have worked with java for some > > time > >> and with perl for very short period. I can't help to notice some > > things that > >> are little annoyance for me with PHP, but I am sure someone more > > experienced > >> can help me :-) > >> Is there in PHP something like "use strict" from perl? I find it > > pretty > >> annoying to need to run script over and over again just to find out that I > >> made typo in variable name. > >> Is there some way for PHP to cache some data on the page? I like very much > >> PHP's speed but it would be even better to be able to cache some > > frequently > >> used data from database? > >> Also regarding databases, I liked a lot java's way of sending data to > > database > >> using parameters ("select * from user where username = ?" and > > then passing > >> parameter separately with database doing necessary escaping and > > everything). > >> Is there something like PHPDBC similar to JDBC? > > > > > > > > > > > > >