Re: CSS & tables

Robert Cummings wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 15:12 -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote: > >> Um... sorry to jump in as a late arrival yet there you go.... >> >> What limitations? You could provide a layered layout using CSS and png >> graphic format. As for setting up columns check out float and clear and >> you're all set. TABLE, TR, TD, TBODY, etc were never intended to be used in >> the manner we see today. If you are blind and you hit a site with a mess of >> nested tables then.. well you might leave because of the garbage you have to >> listen to when the page loads. Speaking of which, correct me if I am wrong >> and my info is out of date but TABLEs are loaded one at a time by browsers >> and cause longer load times than necessary. >> >> All in CSS is the way to go. CSS3 will make our lives easier and will >> contain so many new features that it will be released in batches (modules) >> >> Sorry, I just couldn't read that statement about CSS being limited without >> speaking up. >> > > I should have commented on your other comments too... > > A table layout will generally not degrade the readability of the content > for blind people if the content organized within is such that it will > linearize. Similarly, this is true of nested tables. Browsers today are > so fast and good at rendering HTML that you would need some very serious > nesting to cause problems for the load time. I'm all for CSS, but I > definitely think there are some deficiencies in the browser support > currently. I've gone through all kinds of float hell for table-less > layouts for government website HTML, that's fine, but by no means is it > a walk in the park for all cases, especially where older browser > compatibility is necessary. BTW, Google's homepage still uses a table > layout. I'm sure there's a reason for it. > > Cheers, > Rob. > Oh, yes, I had forgotten about the compatibility... I made a nice, very simple index.php which blew away a client... but on IE it looks like, well... see my attachment.sheisse -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php