RE: [PHP] Header

I agree, and this is the primary reason why Javascript is barely a tool in my opinion - the fact that half of its implementations don't work on half the browsers... We also need to remember though that all these standards are simply RFC's (Request For Comments) meaning that they are driven by feedback and general concensus... The reason that we are still not limited to HTML 0 is because of people pushing standards through the RFC process(good) and browser monoliths from pushing THEIR own standards (maybe not so good) due to market pull. Thus my comment, not judging the right or wrong or correctness of nature, as its not my place to determine if someone should code their site with code that only works on MSIE 7.0a codename "never work" or elects to be HTML 1, 1.1 and so forth complient. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:44 PM To: Dave VanAuken; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Header Ever heard of WaSP? It's a group of people pushing HTML UA vendors towards standards compliance. Because noncompliance is what created the web hell where HTML people must have a different version of a HTML page for every browser their audience uses. Noncompliance with HTTP 1.1 is what brought us coders problems with proxies. header( "Location: ../blah/index.html") ; might work with all current browsers, because they're not compliant with the HTTP protocol. Next time you scream in anger because of lack of support for standard X in browser Y, rest assured it's not that the programmers played Minesweeper. They spent the time they should've been implementing proper web standards support coding around your laziness instead. No offense intended, I'm just... At 20:05 20.12. 2000, Dave VanAuken wrote the following: -------------------------------------------------------------- >No, but it isn't "required" for the function to perform as intended. > >Stating what is proper to be compliant and stating what is required >are two different things. > >Dave > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cynic [mailto:cynic@mail.cz] >Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 12:49 PM >To: mathias rockel; Dan Lowe; php-general@lists.php.net >Subject: Re: [PHP] Header > > >Is being standards-compliant such a PITA? > > >At 18:41 20.12. 2000, mathias rockel wrote the following: >-------------------------------------------------------------- >>Hi! >> >>Although it is it seemed to me every browser I tried could use >relative urls >>as a location header. anyone made different experiences ? >> >>mats >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Dan Lowe" <dan@tangledhelix.com> >>To: <php-general@lists.php.net> >>Cc: <php-general@lists.php.net> >>Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:08 AM >>Subject: Re: [PHP] Header >> >> >>> Previously, Diogo Zulli said: >>> > On [15 December 2000 18:32] (Cynic), wrote: >>> > >>> > } According to the HTTP protocol, the URL must be absolute. >>> > >>> > Does this means that "http://hostname/" >>> > should be on "Location: " >>> > or just the /absolute/pathname must be there? >>> >>> Must be fully qualified with protocol, host, and anything extra, so >>> yes, http://hostname/extra/ is needed. >>> >>> See section 14.30 of RFC 2616 (HTTP 1.1) or section 10.11 of RFC >1945 >>> (HTTP 1.0). >>> >>> The Location response-header field defines the exact location >of the >>> resource that was identified by the Request-URI. For 3xx >responses, >>> the location must indicate the server's preferred URL for >automatic >>> redirection to the resource. Only one absolute URL is allowed. >>> >>> Location = "Location" ":" absoluteURI >>> >>> An example is >>> >>> Location: >>> http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/NewLocation.html >>> >>> -dan >>> >>> -- >>> Dan Lowe <dan@tangledhelix.com> >>> http://tangledhelix.com/ >>> >>> What happens if you get scared half to death twice? >>> >>> -- >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>> For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: >php-list-admin@lists.php.net >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>> For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: >php-list-admin@lists.php.net >>> >> >> >>-- >>PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: >php-list-admin@lists.php.net >------end of quote------ > > > >____________________________________________________________ >Cynic: > >A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught >that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is >the essential part of virtue. > >cynic@mail.cz > > > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: >php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net ------end of quote------ ____________________________________________________________ Cynic: A member of a group of ancient Greek philosophers who taught that virtue constitutes happiness and that self control is the essential part of virtue. cynic@mail.cz -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net