Re: Pricing for PHP programming???

I hear you. Another thing that's hard to find, is somebody who is a good programmer, and a good graphic designer. I don't really know any, apart from myself, and I've been just shy of being called a lying scumbag by a few HR companies over the years when they look at my resume ;-) This thread has really fired up my desire to go the states.... US$80 an hour for php.... daaaaaaaaaaaamn, that's a shitload more than I make here, which is more like US$20/hr Gfunk - http://www.gfunk007.com/ I sense much beer in you. Beer leads to intoxication, intoxication to hangovers, and hangovers to... suffering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Sharp" <webdev@flyerware.com> To: <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > I find this an interesting topic... > > One thing that we've found when looking for additional PHP programmers to > add is that since PHP has exploded there are a lot of people out there > coding in PHP that don't have a background in programming or some of the > design considerations. We've looked at various places from techies.com to > guru.com and haven't found that many PHP gurus out there. So in terms of > skill level, what do you all see the going rate? I know I'm currently > underpaid at $25/hour and I do ALL the PHP programming, project management, > engineering, database theory etc...oh...and did I mention I do all the > network support too? (I'm taking my CCNA in June...) so yeah...we're a > starup what did you expect?! =) > > Comments? > > Disclaimer: I don't mean to offend anyone out there who codes in PHP. But > from the experience that I've had trying to find someone who can really code > clean, effecient stuff that plugs into the whole picture has been virtually > non-existent...(if you do, please call! We have a few openings!) > > Thanks, > -Jonathan Sharp > > Director of Technology - Imprev Inc. > Renwick Development Group - Flyerware > http://www.flyerware.com/ > Phone: (425)688-9200 > Cell: (425)766-1398 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Olson [mailto:philip@cornado.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:40 PM > To: Shane McBride > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Pricing for PHP programming??? > > > > Hey Shane, > > This is a tricky issue, here's me (USD): > > $60/hr > $30/hr if end result becomes open sourced (no strings) > > General discounts for features such as : fun,true non-profit,intelligent > employer,learning curve and it all lives on a sliding scale depending on > their ability to pay and my desire for work/money (time). Also, barter > is usually an option. Usually hovers between 30-50 and one day this will > go up :-) This is the most difficult part of the job, time estimates > and pricing. Bah. "Just give me money and I'll do stuff." > > Regards, > > Philip Olson > http://www.cornado.com/ > > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 03:25:27PM -0500, Shane McBride wrote: > > I know this is not really a PHP question, but it should make for a good > > thread. :) > > > > I was wondering what other PHP people charge to write PHP? I have just > > been given a project for a fairly large customer, much larger than I > > normally do work for. So I am VERY confused.concerned about how to price > > it. Most of my other PHP projects have been done for small single owners > > businesses, and the PHP has been pretty basic. > > > > Now that I can actually do what I am being asked without have to learn > > it, I am stuck. I did a shopping cart for someone, but I didn't charge > > them a REAL price because I didn't know how to do it with PHP. So, I of > > course didn't charge the client for my learning curve. > > > > I know the price is very dependant upon the task. What I am doing is > > creating a web-based front-end for a MySQL database. I'll need to create > > the database tables, etc. The front-end is going to be rather dynamic > > since the data content depends largely on the previous choices of the > > end-user. One or two tables with 20-30 fields. 5-6 pages of html and > > PHP. > > > > I'm just scouting this out, and am VERY confident with the contributors > > to this list and their opinions. > > > > TIA, > > Shane > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >