RE: [PHP] Developer certifications

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:16:41 -0600, kmurrah (kmurrah@bakergrfx.com) wrote: >actually, it IS a timed test, so you cannot simply "spend all day >looking up >the right answer." Heh, maybe not all day, but I took it twice to see if speed was getting counted in the score. The first time I sped thru it, and the second time I let sit there for what seemed like enough time to consult the manual or a book for each question and probably even write a sample program to check the output (whatever it would take to double check that I had the right answer). It scored me the same both times, and for this reason I decided that it was not a very good system. Besides, at this point somebody's probably posted the answers on the internet somewhere, making this thing completely useless. >BTW, if you do want to take the test, today is the last day that the >exam is >offered for free ... tomorrow they start charging $20 or so for each >exam.... > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Maggelet [mailto:maggelet@mminternet.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:14 PM >To: dragos@mirabilis.ro; chris@improbable.org >Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >Subject: Re: [PHP] Developer certifications > > >On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:54:07 +0200 (EET), Dragos Roua >(dragos@mirabilis.ro) wrote: >>Hello, >> >>If you'll take a look at Brainbench.com you'll see a PHP4 cert exam >>there. As >>brainbench plan to become a paid service, their certifications may >>start worth >>something sometime. > >The brainbench exam is terrible. It's heavy on knowing the details of >mssql functions and oci functions, and no points are given for speed. >It's like an open book test so anybody can spend all day looking up >the right answer, fill it out, and get a perfect score. If you just >want to get the thing over with you can be honest and dump all the >answers you don't know. > >Anyway, I think that as a benchmark it's garbage. A good test should >stay away from most modules, and also include speed as a factor. Also >It's way too easy to cheat on a test like this, so I don't think they >should be taken too seriously no matter what. > >I can see requiring a person to pass a test like this before they get >a job interview, but a company using the scores as a basis for hiring >someone would be silly. > >>My 2 cents anyway... >> >>> Does anyone know of a company which is offering or planning to >>>offer PHP >>> developer certifications? Arguments against certification programs >>>aside[1], >>> there are a lot of companies which prefer certified developers, >>>even to the >>> point of assuming a project done in ASP will be better than the >>>same thing >>done >>> in PHP simply because the ASP developers are Microsoft certified. >>> >>> While this seems like an interesting sideline for a company like >>>Zend, I'm >>also >>> somewhat curious about whether an "Open Source" test could be >>>developed. It'd >>> certainly have to be quite different from normal tests and that >>>move away from >>> easily memorized answers would probably be a very good thing. >>> >>> [1] We've all heard them before. I'm personally in favor only of >>certifications >>> like certain devilishly hard Cisco exams which measure more than >>> multiple-choice memory. >>> >>> -- >>> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>> For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >>> To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list- >>>admin@lists.php.net >>> >> >> >>-- >>Dragos Roua >>Mirabilis Media, >>http://www.portal.ro >>http://www.net-info.ro >>http://www.analyser.ro http://www.adserver.ro >>http://www.culinar.ro http://www.cartipostale.ro >> >> >>-- >>PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >>For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >>To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list- >>admin@lists.php.net > > > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list- >admin@lists.php.net > > > >-- >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net >For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net >To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list- >admin@lists.php.net