RE: [PHP] Developer certifications

OK now I'm pissed. I consider myself to be an above average programmer with extensive skill in PHP (amongst other things). NOW... I am not going to go jumping through hoops just because some ignorant/illiterate HR Recruiter/IS Head thinks that if you're not PHP certified by some company (eg. brainbench) you're not worth consideration. I REFUSE to do it. I WOULD NOT on my life take the MCSE of MCwhatever, however I may take the Cisco or the Oracle test. Things that require and properly compensate specialization I am open to. But things that test how well you can interact with a GUI (Windows) are bullshit. With respect to PHP there are other methods of determining ones competency with a particular language. What should be judged is a persons overall programming competency, or how well they can adapt to a new language, as oppose to specialization in PHP or PERL or ..... If you specialize in PHP, what are you going to do when there is no more PHP. (Not that we are expecting that). To summarize, judging a proficiency as it relates to a particular language shows the inexperience and ignorance of your future management. The bottom line is that "YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK FOR PEOPLE LIKE THAT". I'm sure some experienced programmers around here know what I'm talking about. Mike -----Original Message----- From: chris@improbable.org [mailto:chris@improbable.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:33 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Developer certifications Does anyone know of a company which is offering or planning to offer PHP developer certifications? Arguments against certification programs aside[1], there are a lot of companies which prefer certified developers, even to the point of assuming a project done in ASP will be better than the same thing done in PHP simply because the ASP developers are Microsoft certified. While this seems like an interesting sideline for a company like Zend, I'm also somewhat curious about whether an "Open Source" test could be developed. It'd certainly have to be quite different from normal tests and that move away from easily memorized answers would probably be a very good thing. [1] We've all heard them before. I'm personally in favor only of certifications like certain devilishly hard Cisco exams which measure more than multiple-choice memory. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net