This PHP list

I was hoping that this PHP list would be of people developing with PHP, who have reached some level of familiarity with the product and when they have had a fair go at solving a problem, they then posted it to the list. For example, we have a problem in our code where the last object in an array of objects sometimes vanishes into thin air depending on whether you comment-out a block of unrelated code further up the script. Unfortunately, this list is full of people with questions like "I want to access a database with PHP. Can someone please send me the source code". Does anyone know of any other PHP lists that are more suited to non-trivial, expert-related discussions? If there aren't any around, I'll start one on Yahoogroups or some other similar service. regards Ian.