RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?

Thanks for the info, I am a PHP developer who will have to maintain some outsourced (darned) ASP codes. For all ASP converts who are currently converting, look at http://asp2php.naken.cc/ At 04:18 PM 8/2/2001 -0400, billfarr@ages.com wrote:

Hokay, my 2p... I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2 weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as an alternative language for my web-hosting customers. I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen. Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky URL or input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated). M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain documentation. Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events. Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-) Bill -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Loff [mailto:matt@willetts.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference? I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP. Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been posted to this list in the past few days. -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fan@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference? Well which is easier to program? -lk6- http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com Home of the burning lego man! ICQ: 115852509 MSN: dbzno1fan@hotmail.com AIM: legokiller666 ----- Original Message ----- From: "scott [gts]" <scott@graphictype.com> To: "php" <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference? ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based language instead of perl/c-based one. which means it sucks - vb is evil.

-----Original Message----- From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsales@design-monster.com] Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference? isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???

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