Re: Spot the difference?

ok, umm... you got that in pence cause im english.... just kiddin.... so what resources did you use to learn php? -lk6- http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com Home of the burning lego man! ICQ: 115852509 MSN: dbzno1fan@hotmail.com AIM: legokiller666 ----- Original Message ----- From: <billfarr@ages.com> To: <php-general@lists.php.net> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference? > Hokay, my 2p... > > I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2 > weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move > that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All > religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented > and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in > that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on > php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are > usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion > of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've > tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as > an alternative language for my web-hosting customers. > > I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front > Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP > as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and > security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen. > > Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately > familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions > inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point > PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky > URL or > input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with > the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on > VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as > are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated). > M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain > documentation. > > Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of > course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given > the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm > still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around > it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to > have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer > to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events. > > Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-) > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Loff [mailto:matt@willetts.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference? > > > > > I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to > get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to > use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP. > > Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're > new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in > the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to > the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been > posted to this list in the past few days. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kyle Smith [mailto:dbzno1fan@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference? > > > Well which is easier to program? > > > -lk6- > http://www.StupeedStudios.f2s.com > Home of the burning lego man! > > ICQ: 115852509 > MSN: dbzno1fan@hotmail.com > AIM: legokiller666 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scott [gts]" <scott@graphictype.com> > To: "php" <php-general@lists.php.net> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM > Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference? > > > > ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based > > language instead of perl/c-based one. > > > > which means it sucks - vb is evil. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:dmsales@design-monster.com] > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference? > > > > > > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless??? > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To > > contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net To > contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: php-general-unsubscribe@lists.php.net > For additional commands, e-mail: php-general-help@lists.php.net > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: php-list-admin@lists.php.net >