PHP Corporate settings again

Great to see more discussion on this - it seems to crop up again every few months. :) While I certainly share most people's enthusiasm and dedication to PHP, I'm not sure if credit cards and whatnot is the best route to take, at least to start with. I'd start (a while back) a site called phpshowcase.com - I'd love for people to get involved with it (visit it to put your details in and/or email me privately for more info). It was started in reaction to many other 'large' companies (MS, Sun, Allaire) having 'success stories' on their sites. They choose a select few large/brand name sites, and do rather in depth stories on them. We've developed a number of sites, some of which we put up at phpshowcase.com as a testbed. I've seen other PHP sites that simply give a list of 'who's using PHP', but they fail to get comments from the organizations, reasoning from the developers as to why PHP was chosen, etc. We'ved rebuilt ASP sites in PHP, and they've generally run faster, and our development time has been a fraction of the time the ASP version took. IMO, it's the stories like that that have the most pull - WHY something was chosen, what the benefits were (time/money/scalability), and so on. A 'self-serve' site which allows PHP people to contribute their own info seems like the best of both worlds. Hopefully we'll get some momentum to get some of the larger sites as well as many smaller sites to contribute info such as site usage, development time/costs, hardware, etc. Those are the pieces you read about with respect to other technologies, and I think it's needed in the PHP community. I would appreciate any feedback on this idea, as well as actual participation. :) Again, while 'ad campaigns' aren't necessarily a bad idea, I think there's a lot that can be done by simply banding together everyone's success stories into one area. ------------------------------- Michael Kimsal http://www.tapinternet.com/php/ PHP Training Courses 734-480-9961