Re: Yes, particularly Glade3

I may need to make changes, because the reason I took interest in this project was because a teacher told me he didn't use PHP because it was only used for web scripting. I also want to use it as a way to develop some of the applications for an operating system my friend and I are building (he likes design, hence glade, and I like actual code, hence PHP). It seems that all that "PHP-GTK" had going for it was upgrading PHP counterparts. What it sounds like it needs is a total overhaul, and I may end up doing just that, but it would sound easier if I had the code that Alexandre made for php 5.4. I emailed him asking about the website as well, and I'd like to know how to gain commit access, editing, etc., because I need this. It will make development much more easier because while my friend designs without a clue how to program, I can then take his designs and make them work. And Andrei jumped ship? Man, if I jumped ship, I'd find someone to take my place before leaving. I realize that other bindings are available like Python, but I prefer to not have to learn how to reinvent the wheel. I need Alexandre's work to build off of as he did a lot by upping the support to 5.4. I would have liked for him to have gotten up to 5.6, but it doesn't make a difference like the other two components. I will try to get my hands on his work and continue on, because I have reasons for developing forward even if they aren't specifically for this whole project. On a further note, if I get my hands on the correct stuff needed, I will make the third attempt to bring this back, particularly to make it heard that PHP cannot be downsized because it doesn't need a compiler. Its a powerful language that can be used to make both websites and applications, and I want to keep it that way. Also, any changes I make will be released back into the community. > On Jun 19, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Madeleine D. <chezmmd@gmail.com> wrote: > > > G - > > Bummer. This has been the problem all along. Nobody with time or > energy to devote to the project, since the creator jumped ship. > > You might try Bruno at scorninpc@gmail.com. Last I knew he had a github > of Gtk3 in the works. > > hth. > > >> On 06/19/2015 03:53 PM, Gage Morgan wrote: >> He said he lost the will to participate, though his changes would have been nice to have in >> the main repo so that others could contribute. I'm getting 404 errors from the sites listed >> under his name. This was located in the archive of this list. >> >> >> >>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Madeleine D. <chezmmd@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> G - >>> >>> AFAICT, one of the developers from Brazil is working on redoing the web >>> site. >>> >>> His email: alexandre@simaoebuhler.com.br. You can either email him, or >>> review the archives for this list for status. >>> >>> hth, >>> Madeleine D. >>> >>> >>>> On 06/19/2015 03:37 PM, Gage Morgan wrote: >>>> Are you saying I should go over to IRC? I did look at the resources page, and I did >>>> see links to programs made with PHP-GTK, but I'm talking about PHP-GTK itself. Also, the site >>>> itself needs a design upgrade to match up as a blue version of php.net. Anyone visiting will see >>>> what gtk.php.net looks like now and think that it is slightly outdated. I will go rescan the >>>> Resources page. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Madeleine D. <chezmmd@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gage - >>>>> >>>>> You need to go out the chat channel for this project. See the resources >>>>> page on the web site. >>>>> >>>>> The current development activity, such as it is, is there. >>>>> >>>>> Madeleine D. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 06/19/2015 03:06 PM, Gage Morgan wrote: >>>>>> Good Afternoon Madeleine, >>>>>> >>>>>> What you happen to be using is GTK2, which was replaced years ago. Although >>>>>> some may say that GTK3 is relatively new, that would be what I'd assume was due to its role in >>>>>> the controversial GNOME3 development. Timeframes for these two I currently don't have on me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even worse, Glade3 has been out since August 12. 2006. So even though Glade >>>>>> 3.8 can be used with GTK2, I can't find a package for GTK2. Essentially, even the docs on >>>>>> gtk.php.net need an overhaul, which I would have a hard time writing because I can't even fully >>>>>> utilize PHP-GTK yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I'm looking into is using PHP-GTK with GTK3 and Glade3.(19?). I >>>>>> read the archives and it was said something was in the works, but it doesn't look like anything >>>>>> has come to fruition yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because GTK2 isn't even available anymore, and PHP-GTK thus >>>>>> won't build for Glade even if it finds support, PHP-GTK needs to be "overhauled" for >>>>>> both packages (Glade3 and GTK3), something of which I have no idea how to do. I emailed Andrei >>>>>> directly about helping out, but he seems to not have been in his inbox for a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, Windows for some odd reason has both Glade3 and GTK3 for PHP-GTK, but >>>>>> right now neither are built-in for Linux. I use Ubuntu and without these, PHP-GTK will stand a >>>>>> sitting duck. It's not dead, there's just not enough people. If whoever over here is still >>>>>> planning PHP-GTK3 that was mentioning it in January, please post an update on the fact that you are >>>>>> indeed working on a 3rd update or planning a 3rd update to the main page at gtk.php.net.. I realize >>>>>> there have been some posts to an extent on gtk.php.net, but none seem to say anything about what the >>>>>> actual development happening right now is, just that "it's still happening." >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, in order to attract more people, there needs to be some >>>>>> "uniformization" with the website itself. The gtk.php.net will officially be pronounced a >>>>>> living project again when the website can make a PHP-GTK blue theme that goes along with the main >>>>>> site's theme at php.net. The current site looks like what php.net used to look like, but not >>>>>> what the actual php.net looks like anymore. If we can make PHP-GTK's website look like a blue >>>>>> version on par with php.net's current purple version, then the people come are gonna be like >>>>>> "When did this happen? Just yesterday it looked outdated!!" >>>>>> >>>>>> Even though the saying goes "Don't judge a book by it's >>>>>> cover," people will always end up doing just that. So, who in this project has been working on >>>>>> PHP-GTK3? >>>>>> >>>>>> (If there are any corrections to what I just said about Glade and GTK, >>>>>> don't mention them here because I will likely figure them out as time goes on, all I'm >>>>>> requesting is that somebody puts it out there that PHP-GTK3 is in fact underway and what the game >>>>>> plan is, even if incomplete) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Madeleine D. <chezmmd@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It depends on what you're looking for. I am the developer for an >>>>>>> active >>>>>>> PHP-Gtk2 application in Medical Billing. We've been running our >>>>>>> customers on various versions/updates for about 6 years. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently, we run on Win/Mac/Ubuntu with pretty good success. But we >>>>>>> haven't spent a lot of time on technie details, like Glade, etc. >>>>>>> We >>>>>>> usually just take from whatever port is already available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I can help, I will. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Madeleine D. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06/19/2015 01:05 PM, M. Gage Morgan wrote: >>>>>>>> Glade2 support is long past due, and I have no clue how to get it >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> there. I am new here, and I am having troubles. I can install it on >>>>>>>> Ubuntu, but glade3 particularly and some of the others located in >>>>>>>> /ext >>>>>>>> aren't showing up. I have no clue how to develop for this >>>>>>>> project, so >>>>>>>> any pointers will be appreciated. I am also interested on getting >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> program back on track as it's something I want to use to make >>>>>>>> a set of >>>>>>>> default programs for an OS my friend and I have been working on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there is any way I can help, I will. But first I need to find >>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>> out there who is already active, and right now all I hear is radio >>>>>>>> silence... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --MGage-- >>