Re: Re: RFC - Array Of for PHP 7

Am 05.11.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Tony Marston:

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it depends on the implementation and just beause you say so does not prove anything and even if you need to measure, optimize and make decisions based on technical facts - what you do is "mimimi i say"

I have worked on software which provided lots of different options, which means that you have to keep testing if an option is being used or not. This is an overhead whether you like it or not.

maybe your implementation was bad

There is a big difference between adding something to the language core which everyone has to load into memory, and having something in an extension which is entirely optional.

or why did 5.3, 5.4, 5.5 and 5.6 not speaking about 7.0/7.1 *all* have new features and where *faster* then the previous version - frankly you are raising alarm for no reason

Can you prove that each new version was faster? Where is your evidence?

everbody knows that and can benchmark it at any time, but if it makes you happy that others are doing your homework https://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/493-php-performance-evolution.html

PHP 7 is faster than PHP 5 for various reasons, such as it being 64bit instead of 32bit

WTF, only in your windows world which don't matter that much, everywhere else x86_64 is normal for many years and each software

Excuse me! Some of the major clients who use my ERP application only use Windows servers, so your claim that Windows does matter is completely bogus.

how does that change the fact that your claim "such as it being 64bit instead of 32bit" is nonsense when most of the benchamrks and production servers out there are running PHP on x86_64 with 86_64 builds for a decade now?

and improvements made to the engine itself, such as the AST. I submit that it would be smaller and faster if it did not have to carry around so much dross. Adding something to the core language just to save a few keystrokes for a small number of lazy developers falls into the category of dross

you ignored that practicaly *every* PHP version before PHP/ was faster *and* had new features compared to the previous one

Just think how much faster and easier to maintain it would be if all this save-a-few-keystrokes dross had not been added in the first place.

again: unproven claim, but in your own world a hashtable probably is also not O(1) or you are just not capable to optimize software at all but then stop claim others aren't too