Re: RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update)

From: Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 09:07:34 +0000
Subject: Re: RFC: RFC Workflow & Voting (2019 update)
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Hi! > 1) Please see my earlier message. The way FIG is structured, one could extend > voting rights to project representatives, the core committee, both, or > neither. The core committee is 12 people. Project reps are ~36 currently. > Adding 12 people to the voting pool would not "effectively hand control over > the entire PHP project to FIG". That's complete hyperbole. Even if it were > all > 50 people, that's still less than a third the number of people that would Please note that people eligible to vote and people actually voting are very different. 39 people voted on FFI RFC, 71 people on properties RFC, 48 on preloading RFC. Adding 50 votes to that could significantly change the dynamic (in fact, it would be possible to change an unanimously passing RFC to a failed one). And as many of us who watched political elections know, you don't always need controlling majority to wield very significant influence - sometimes just being able to change a marginal vote goes a long way. Now, don't get me wrong - I do think group like FIG should have some influence on what we decide, and an input from such a group would be very valuable. However, I think that if there's a marginal vote and votes from people who do not directly contribute to the project would be instrumental to significantly changing the outcome, this would not make a healthy community dynamic. There's a difference between providing input and advice and having decisive power, and I think while the advice is highly valuable and welcome, the decisive power should be with those who actually implements and maintains stuff. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com

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