Re: Don't silence fatal errors

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 02:03, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > Good morning Nikita, > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 4:43 AM Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi internals, > > > > When the silencing operator @ is used, the intention is generally to > > silence expected warnings or notices. However, it currently also silences > > fatal errors. As fatal errors also abort request execution, the result > will > > often be a hard to debug white screen of death. > > > > The most recent occurrence which motivated me to write this mail is > > https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=77205, but I've seen > > this play out > > multiple > > times already. > > > > I would like to propose to change the behavior of @ to only silence > > warnings, notices and other low-level diagnostics, but leave fatal errors > > intake. In particular, the following should not be silenced: > > > > > I am surely missing use cases because I wonder why we need @, at all? > > Yes there are functions generating extra messages and should not, be fro. > PHP implementation or from external libraries (wrapping stderr to php > errors). All of them could be fixed. > > Best, > Pierre > The most common case which comes to mind is to suppress erros while file reading. Because even if you check a file exists it could be deleted inbetween the check and the read command. As you can see this is even written in the documentation [1] Best regards George Peter Banyard [1] https://secure.php.net/manual/en/function.fopen.php