Re: Internals "camps"

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 3:27 PM Mark Randall <marandall@php.net> wrote: > On 10/10/2019 23:04, Walter Parker wrote: > > If this truly is the problem that you say it is, there should be plenty > of > > documentation online as to the issues that it has cause. Maybe you could > > post some of the better cases (as the the responsibility of the person > > suggesting the change to provide evidence that the change is a good > idea). > > The top comment on our own documentation website upvoted more than a > hundred times is people using it by accident :-) > > > Thank you for finally providing some research data on the subject. Now we know that in the last 13 years 103 have upvoted a comment in our documentation about someone making a typo in their code by typing ` and it was not simple to figure out (as they were not using an editor with syntax highlighting). FYI, I just Google'd ` and the first two links do give the name of the item. The second is link to stack overflow that documents what it means and how to use. I admit that I've been programming since before PHP was invented. I started with Unix shells and Perl decades ago, so ` is not a foot gun for me. It sounds like it foot gun for many others. What I still don't know is if the rate of foot shooting of a feature that you say is rarely used these days outweighs the cost of breaking older code that does use it. Personally, I think you are underestimating the cost and trouble of fixing it, but I'll admit that I could be wrong. As I stopped supporting other people's PHP, the costs of this vote should have little to no impact on me personally. If It does pass, I hope the costs and trouble are as small as you seem to think they are. Walter > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. -- Justice Louis D. Brandeis