Re: [VOTE] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

On 15.08.20 11:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski wrote:

I don't think there's anything significant changed in the RFC. I really doubt the vote result will change significantly. Currently you're the only one who wants to wipe the vote and there is no much voices willing to follow your proposal. Personally I think extending the vote by additional week is fair enough.

Next to Theodore, at least 4 other people in this mailing list have stated that they think the RFC process should be followed as stated in the RFC documents (with proper time for discussion and voting, which was clearly not adhered to) and/or that there is important information missing in the RFC, which both should lead to a change of the RFC and a revote. I am a bit surprised at how casually the RFC process is interpreted - it is the basis of how decisions are made for PHP, yet multiple people have already stated they don't really feel like following the process as described/agreed upon, one of them Derick, a long-time member of PHP Internals, who I would think would want to be a role model for the process. Why even have an RFC process, if parts of it can be ignored depending on the mood of some of its more influential members? Does this behavior inspire confidence in PHP as a language? By the way, the RFC has not yet changed and is still incomplete as of now, and updating it at this time would probably not do much - because how many people re-read an RFC where they already cast the vote? It is unexpected that an RFC is heavily changed after voting has initiated - you would expect it to be complete at that time.