Re: Broken Wiki Registraiton (was: [IDEA] allow extending enum)
| From: | Christian Schneider | Date: | Thu, 30 Mar 2023 09:25:00 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Broken Wiki Registraiton (was: [IDEA] allow extending enum) | ||
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Am 30.03.2023 um 10:50 schrieb Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com>:
> That said, mailing lists are ancient and in my opinion a horrible way of doing things.
Mailing lists have been around for a long time, yes, but it also means the way we use it for larger
scale communication has been refined over time. Please consider that this process is based on a lot
of experience.
> I've had my fair share of issues to sign up initially, there's a weird etiquette of
> how you have to structure your replies
Once you familiarized yourself with the notion of giving enough context to your reply parts (but not
too much) it becomes a very valuable way of keeping communication efficient.
The main point is that 1 person is writing a reply but 100s to 1000s have to read it and they do not
have the same mental context as the writer.
So spending this extra effort to minimize the effort of the reader is well worth it.
> , and most importantly you have to remind yourself.every time to press "reply all".
As it is sufficient to just reply to the mailing list this could technically be changed by adding a
Reply-To. The downside would be that it makes private replies harder and the occasional slip-up
could send a private reply to the list instead.
IMHO private replies should be kept to a minimum so I think (re-)considering adding a Reply-To might
be worth it.
> There are also issues with messages ending up in junk-mail or caught by spam-filters, and you
> heavily depend on your
> mail client to properly group messages so you can actually digest them in a conversational
> form.
Threading emails has been part of mail clients for 20 years, I'm puzzled that people still
consider this to be an issue.
Mail filters also allow to automatically separate into folders, if one wishes so.
> Email is also lacking edit buttons
This is actually an important feature! It forces the writer to be more careful with replies which in
turn safes time for the 100s of readers.
It also means that I don't miss edits or have to go back to edited messages and guess what has
changed.
Editing messages just doesn't scale well with large recipient groups IMHO.
> and integrated code blocks like we're used to with github (or markdown in general).
I don't think it is hard to format example code in a way that they are readable in an email.
Again: It is a little bit of extra work for the writer but this tends to lead to simpler code
examples for the reader.
Regards,
- Chris