Re: $ref =& $this;

--- and as was mentioned on IRC earlier, anyone who gives a damn about the future of PHP isn't going to be someone who talks about forking it and making rogue releases. You _are_ trolling when you do this, and you're not doing the reputation of the dev team any good. I know you're one of the good guys, I know you work like stink on the project and I know half of what you say is tongue-in-cheek - but who else knows it? Beside all that stuff, Jani, it's a Jewish religious holiday. You're attacking people who aren't around to defend themselves. How cool is that? Grrrr! - Steph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jani Taskinen" <sniper@iki.fi> To: "Christian Schneider" <cschneid@cschneid.com> Cc: <internals@lists.php.net> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] $ref =& $this; > On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Christian Schneider wrote: > > > Two things to consider: > > 1) If the PHP maintainers are getting sick of BC then it might be better > > to break BC than to lose maintainers. > > Well, losing couple of trolls like me is not bad thing, is it? :) > But yes, if PHP can't evolve, this will happen. Either there will > be a fork of some sort or a "rogue" release of PHP 6..who knows. > We haven't decided yet. (any names for the fork are accepted :) > > > 2) On the other hand one should not forget that the amount of PHP4 code > > around is much bigger than the size of the PHP source itself. So even if > > BC is abandoned you can't simply drop PHP4 altogether (as hinted at in > > this thread) without causing a lot of damage. > > Nobody is talking about dropping PHP4. Definately no new features > will go into PHP 4, but bug fixes are still gonna be committed > once in a while. And as long as Derick is interested, there propably > will be even releases! :) > > > One possibility I see would be to have PHP<x> (insert your favourite > > number here) drop compatibility with PHP4 and have some maintainers > > work on PHP4 bug fixes and some on PHP6 features/bugs. It's kinda unclear > > what would happen to PHP5 - PHP<x-1> though its maintainers would > > face the same BC+new-stuff situation we have right now which doesn't > > seem to be popular. > > The Plan is to release 5.1 first by Ilia since the original RMs are too "busy". > We'll see what happens once we get rid of one of the branches to maintain, > the PHP_5_0 branch. (outdated, not holding all the fixes, etc.) > > --Jani > > -- > Give me your money at @ > <http://pecl.php.net/wishlist.php/sniper> > Donating money may make me happier and friendlier for a limited period! > Death to all 4 letter abbreviations starting with P! > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >