Re: Namespaces in PHP 6 - ++$take

On 10-Nov-06, at 1:19 PM, Sean Coates wrote:

PHP 6 is not yet out and probably won't be production quality for quite some time. Which means that migration to it en mass is probably not going to happen this decade :-).

<snippitysnip/> I'm not talking about forcing everyone to use namespaces tomorrow. I'm trying to plan for a future where there's a sensible way to avoid symbol collision.

Since day one there was a sensible way to do, prefixing, but for whatever reason (and let's not get into that discussion) many people had not which is why we are having this problem today.

As for everyone developing on PHP $release-1 until 50% market saturation, I believe that to be the case in widely-distributed PHP apps (such as FUDForum), but you seem to be forgetting about the large number of PHP applications that are developed for internal use. I don't know of anyone currently using PHP 4 to develop new PHP apps unless they're for external distribution.

I was not referring to just the distributable applications, I know of many companies and people who develop internal software that's PHP4 only as they have no plans to move to PHP5. There is also a large number of ISPs providing exclusively PHP4 solutions, which effectively forces their client base to stick to PHP4. You also forget that a larger number of PHP developers started their development by looking at other people's code and using that as a base. Given that the base is predominantly PHP4 they tend to continue using PHP4. Ilia Alshanetsky