Re: cvs: php-src(PHP_5_2) / run-tests.php

Is there a PHP/Zend bug-tracking system that can be used to record and moderate these requests (like a Bugzilla server somewhere)? Or is there a wiki or forum that that can be devoted to the change-process? (Sorry for these n00b questions - I'm a long time PHP hacker - but I've only recently became interested in PHP/Zend development). -- Jim On 2/9/07, LAUPRETRE François (P) <francois.laupretre@ratp.fr> wrote:

I proposed several times to make the process more formal, with a real RFC process. It does not have to be more complex than what the Zend Framework uses. I never had any reply... As time passes, I also start to be fed up with these feature removals. I also start suspecting some people to have an interest in the current lack of transparency concerning the decision process in general. IMO, the mailing list is not the best tool for RFCs, and we all know that a number of interesting proposals were ignored because :

        - either there was another discussion/flamewar going on at the

same time, and it was lost in the flow.

        - or the proposal did not come from a group of ~10/15 core people..

I am pretty sure that most of these people only read messages coming from their peers. It is OK because they certainly cannot read everything, but it illustrates the need for another space for RFCs. The other reason why I want a dedicated RFC space is history. Every day, you see messages saying 'I don't remember...', 'what did we decide... ?'. There is no place with decision history. So, the same subject is regularly discussed again and again. I am sure you will appreciate that the only document we have to justify removing ereg from the core distribution is in http://www.php.net/~derick. Sorry to say that, Derick, but please admit that this kind of information should go to a more 'official' place. Regards Francois -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wilson [mailto:wilson.jim.r@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 6:52 PM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RE : [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php-src(PHP_5_2) / run-tests.php On that note - is there a formal process in place for deciding what gets moved from PCEL to 'Optional Extension' and vice-versa? Who has final say in the matter? -- Jim On 2/9/07, LAUPRETRE François (P) <francois.laupretre@ratp.fr> wrote:

From: Derick Rethans [mailto:derick@php.net] On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg wrote:

I read this as saying we're removing the entire ereg extension from PHP 6. If that's not true, then never mind.

http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-notes.html#move-ereg-to-pecl

From what I read there, it was decided to unbudle the regex library and to make ereg an extension, not to move this new ereg

extension to

PECL. There is a big difference between making ereg an optional feature and moving it to PECL ! So, as I am tired to see features I use every day planned

for removal

from the core, I'd like to see another justification. IMHO,

the ereg

extension should be changed to an optional extension, but bundled with the PHP distribution. François -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php