Re: Simple Namespace Proposal

As usual, consider Hans' opinion identical to mine ;) Nice job, can't wait for it being out in the wild. David Am 15.07.2007 um 02:37 schrieb Hans Lellelid:

As someone that has long clamoured for namespaces in PHP, I have to say that this proposal by Dmitry is exactly what I & others have been hoping for in PHP. Thanks, Dmitry, for creating this patch. I'm sure there are going to be some peculiarities that need to be sorted out, but I can't wait until we can start writing code to use this! I am confidentl that this is something that will be embraced by the OOP PHP community as soon as it is available. Hans Andrei Zmievski wrote:

I love this. Let's ship it. -Andrei On Jul 5, 2007, at 6:49 AM, Dmitry Stogov wrote:

I think the following example is much better, however I am not sure it's a right direction. Namespaces are intended to declare names that can conflict with names from other namespaces (including global namespace), do I am not sure that we need special keyword for internal functions. We'll think little bit more. Anyway thank you for feedback and idea. <?php namespace UTF8; overloaded class Exception { } overloaded function strlen() { } ?> Thanks. Dmitry.

-----Original Message----- From: david.coallier@gmail.com [mailto:david.coallier@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Coallier Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:35 PM To: Stefan Priebsch Cc: Dmitry Stogov; PHP internals Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal On 7/5/07, Stefan Priebsch <stefan.priebsch@e-novative.de> wrote:

David Coallier schrieb:

I would probably be in favor of throwing a notice or a

warning when

someone modifies a built-in function (or even throw an exception) and that way as soon as you do such thing you would know

right away

that you modified something and you would know where the modification happened which would make things much easier

for people

developing and debugging applications.

The problem is that this kind of overloading makes a nice

feature as

well. This is runied by throwing an exception, and cautious

developers

will at least get nervous when they see a notice. I could imagine that by adding something like "overrides foo()" or "overloads foo()" to a function/method declaration the

developer could

make clear that he willingly overrides a built-in function, and if this is missing, an exception is being thrown. This may be a little over the top, however.

Yep I see what you mean.. could even be something like: namespace UTF8; overrides {

    strlen();
    strcmp();

} function strlen($string) {

    return strlen($string) + 666; // This is just an example ! } ...

I kinda like the overrides part, however I wonder if people will actually use it.. Oh well.. my two cents are now gone.

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