RE: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal

> -----Original Message----- > From: david.coallier@gmail.com > [mailto:david.coallier@gmail.com] On Behalf Of David Coallier > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:31 PM > To: Dmitry Stogov > Cc: Arpad Ray; Hans Lellelid; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal > > > On 7/23/07, Dmitry Stogov <dmitry@zend.com> wrote: > > Hi Arpad, > > > > You have to always use namespace name as prefix for acesing > namespace > > entities. (The only exception is direct import of calss). > > So expectatins in your tests are wrong. > > > > Thanks. Dmitry. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Arpad Ray [mailto:arpad@rajeczy.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:32 PM > > > To: Dmitry Stogov > > > Cc: 'Hans Lellelid'; 'PHP internals' > > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Simple Namespace Proposal > > > > > > > > > Dmitry Stogov wrote: > > > > The patch is already committed to the HEAD. > > > > > > > > Dmitry. > > > > > > > There seem to be some problems with importing across files. The > > > tests currently in CVS are all in single files so it's not > > > immediately obvious. When a namespace is declared in one file and > > > imported in another, classes must be addressed absolutely > either in > > > the import or when used, and functions must be addressed > absolutely > > > when used, irrespective of imports. > > > > > > I've attached some phpt files to test this, but here's a simple > > > illustration: > > > > > > foo.php: > > > <?php > > > namespace foo; > > > function foobar() { } > > > class Foobaz { } > > > ?> > > > > > > bar.php: > > > <?php > > > import foo; > > > foobar(); // error > > > new Foobaz; // error > > > foo::foobar(); // ok > > > new foo::Foobaz; // ok > > > > > > import foo::foobar; > > > import foo::Foobaz; > > > foobar(); // error > > > new Foobaz; // ok > > > > > > import foo::foobar as foobar2; > > > foobar2(); // error > > > ?> > > > > > > > > > Arpad > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > Ok here are a few questions that I would like clear answers > and not "Do you have a proposal? I DON"T SEE ONE, do you have > a patch??. I just want a simple but clear answer. > > > 1) Do we have unnamed namespaces available ? What is "unnamed namespace"? We have global namespace that contains all PHP internal function/classes and user defined function/classes in files without namespace declaration. > > 2) In short and clear, why are braces not being used ? C++, > C# uses it. (Short answer and if the answer is "Developer > didn't want to do it..." just say "Usual" We are not C++. Python doesn't use braces. The only neediness for braces is placing several namespaces into one file, but one of the goal of our concept is avoiding this. > > 3) Do we have aliasing available ? (Ex: namespace PHP_NSX = > PHP_NS1::PHP_NS2) The import statement creates alias. "import PHP_NS1::PHP_NS2 as PHP_NSX;" does exacly what you want. "import PHP_NS1::PHP_NS2;" really does ""import PHP_NS1::PHP_NS2 as PHP_NS2;". > > 4) Are nested namespaces available ? > No they are. > 5) Were there any test provided with such feature commit ? If > so where could I see them to use them and maybe answer my own > questions (And I do not have time to read through all the > patch to see if it does) Look into Zend/tests/ns_*.phpt > > Should be ok for a first draft and this is not some sort of > attack, I am really trying to compile a list of features > absent and present to see what *types* of namespaces we have > and how to correctly inform people on how to use them. It is not the first namespace proposal. I made three different concept and saw two other concepts in the past . This one seems as most awaitble by most PHP users. Thanks. Dmitry. > -- > David Coallier, > Founder & Software Architect, > Agora Production (http://agoraproduction.com) > 51.42.06.70.18 >