Re: php7- dropping the $ from the variable name - rfc

Since these are all valid requests (I really enjoyed the euro sign one), I'd suggest to import some ideas from Fortran and Python. The first request is to remove the ; sign. It's annoying and everyone here knows it. =) My second request is is column identing. PHP should support = assignment if defined in column 0, example: <?php $foo "value" // equivalent to $foo = "value"; nowadays And since we may have to deal with other interesting situations (like +=, -=, etc), you should put the sign before left expression + $foo "value" // which means $foo += "value"; The idea should be followed for: 0 equivalent to = assignment 1 equivalent to method or function call 2 function or method definition 3 normal code 4 loop .. The idea is very simple and imagine this source that currently works: class Foo { public static function bar() { $str = ''; for ($i = 0, $l = 10; $i < $l; $i++) { $str += '[' . $i . ']'; } return $str; } } Will be simplified a lot into (and also include the euro sign suggestion): class Foo static bar() €str '' €i = 0, €l = 10; €i < €l; €i++ + €str '[' . €i . ']' return €str Of course this is just a RFC and we should start endless discussions to define new terminals in grammar, but I would love to see that into PHP 7!!!! Cheers, On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote: > Hello Ionut, > > a Friend suggested to replace it with a Euro sign, so that PHP code gets > worth more :-) > > marcus > > Thursday, September 18, 2008, 8:30:37 PM, you wrote: > >> Actually, I somehow understand what he wants, considering we'll soon >> have lambdas and closures. I mean, in case of javascript a variable can >> hold as well a function as it can hold anything else. Anyway, I don't >> think this is the case for PHP. I do find it ugly to write $function(), >> but I guess I'll live with it as I did until now. > >> Cheers, >> I. Stan > > > > >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Brian Moon <brianm@dealnews.com> >> To: mike <mike503@gmail.com> >> Cc: marius popa <mapopa@gmail.com>; internals@lists.php.net >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:06:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php7- dropping the $ from the variable name - rfc > >> mike wrote: >>> Personally I love the $. It makes it so much easier to identify >>> variables. It's a single character. Can't see the need honestly to >>> even bring this up. > >> +1,000,000. Horrible idea. *facepalm* > >> -- > >> Brian Moon >> Senior Web Engineer >> ------------------------------ >> When you care enough to spend the very least. >> http://dealnews.com/ > > >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > >> > > > > > Best regards, > Marcus > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil