Re: back to 5.4 alpha

Stas Malyshev wrote:

I'm totally against an alpha at this stage. Not before we have clarified all we need to get a clean release.

OK, so what do you propose to do? I.e., if you think there are things to be discussed, set the agenda. I think that besides typing, trunk is ok for alpha, you obvious don't think so. So, in your opinion: 1. What's missing and should be added?

First thing perhaps ... which IS Pierre's problem ... Windows snapshots But short of trawling the commit tree ... what HAS already been added? ( links to the CURRENT release notes from the windows site are broken by the way )

2. What should be removed?

Without a clean list of what has been added .... Although I do seem to have missed something in 5.3.3 - where is the constructor in a namespaced class if it's not going to use the those that already exist in the source non-namespaced one. Not having been able to move TO php5.3 yet I seem to have missed that discussion.

3. When you expect/want it to happen?

Perhaps some time after PHP5.3 is actually complete on all windows builds? Creating an Alpha of PHP-Trunk may be a way of creating the documentation that is currently missing to even discuss the above questions, but how many of those changes have even been tested on windows builds? Perhaps a move to a DVCS approach WOULD be a good thing. Nothing gets allowed back into the master without the necessary cross checks that there is agreement ... AND it has been fully tested across all builds? However I am personally of the opinion that DVCS is just creating a much bigger minefield for those projects that now depend on it completely :( A single master IS essential for stable production releases. Currently I am still working my way through the holes in PHP5.3.x which is why PHP5.2 is STILL the last stable release as far as my ( windows ) customer sites are concerned. SO sensible debate on the next step forward IS more important and simply pulling PHP even further apart? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php